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Justin McMillen (00:00:05):

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Justin McMillen (00:00:14):

You're one of the most interesting people that I've ever met. And I'll tell you why. Is your. You're a war fighter. It was also a corpsman, right? Which makes you a really interesting character. Already? That's crazy. Right? But then you're an artist. Yeah. You've also successfully transitioned from a pretty successful military career to a good civilian career, which is incredibly hard to do.

Justin McMillen (00:00:41):

And there are tens of thousands of men and women out there that need to learn how to do that. Yeah. And you, you've been successful. And I think I think that I met you on your your absolute upward and forward trajectory. Right. So, yeah, I think, I'm just blessed to have you here. So I'm saying I'm blessed to be here, man.

Remi Adeleke (00:01:02):

It was such a cool way how we kind of even connected and came together via, I forgot the guy's name, but sharing in my book with his son many, many years ago, and. And him reaching out to me, just on a whim, out and on LinkedIn and saying, hey, I need you to meet my buddy Justin.

Remi Adeleke (00:01:18):

So it's so it's been such a blessing to meet you even, like, before I even came up here and met you, you had sent me, and I think I forgot the guy's name, but, it was either you and him had sent me a bunch of links to what Treehouse does and just to show your movement, and I was just so blown away.

Remi Adeleke (00:01:36):

Because his title, my book is transform. So I've always been fascinated by transformation and how people transform in different ways and different tools that can be used to transform others, and tools that are often use the same tools and how they can consistently work, not just with one group, but with many other groups. So just to kind of be exposed to that and be exposed to you and your heart and hear your heart and the type of man you are, man.

Justin McMillen (00:01:59):

And it's been such a blessing to know you as well, brother, and I appreciate that. I think when we had lunch that that first day and it was like you were talking about raising your kids and going by the park and. Yeah, and some of the stuff. And I just listened to you and I was like, yeah, this is and and your, your greater mission, whether it be filmmaking or, you know, writing books or your public speaking or even the work you're doing, around your faith.

Justin McMillen (00:02:23):

Yeah. I don't know, there's just a ton that that, intersects. And so I hope to know you for a long time. I know we will. I think you're gonna be around here a lot, so I'm. I'm excited about that. Yes, sir. So before we get too far in, because some people won't know you, you're kind of all over the internet right now, but, I'm going to read some of this stuff anyway, so, let me add a lackey.

Justin McMillen (00:02:44):

So I do like a how do you say it's, and a like. So I tell people all the time, if it rhymes, you got it right. De la okay. De la okay, okay. So so I, you know ChatGPT. Right. So I put your name in ChatGPT and asked what it meant. Yeah. You know, I'm sure you know, this crown is supreme.

Remi Adeleke (00:03:00):

Yeah. But Remy is it is it short? It Remy is short for Addy. Remy. Okay, so that means Crown, to comfort, right? The, the crown, the comfort of the crown has appease me. Okay, okay. So which kind of in your language, it could kind of mean the same thing, I mean, because, again, the translation is translated in the English.

Justin McMillen (00:03:19):

Right? So appease and to meet with comfort, like, that's kind of, to me like it's anonymous. And I think that that's way a lot of people in Europe. What culture. They, they look at that definition. Okay. Yeah. Yeah. That's it was so cool what I was reading. I was like, everything about your name is, it's like royalty upon royalty.

Remi Adeleke (00:03:37):

Yeah. And that's that's beautiful. And then at a, like a, I'd add a is the, the crown and then, like, is to rise. Yeah. That's a over time or to. Right. So, so like a, like the, the, the main substratum main definition is supreme. So a like you don't get when it comes to at day you don't get higher than at day, like right.

Remi Adeleke (00:04:02):

So like, at a bio is, the Crown meets with joy. At De Remy's, a crown has a piece of me at De Lake. It is a crown is supreme. Right. So, and that obviously that comes from my grandfather. My grandfather was a chief in the Europe tribe. So, he was at a lake.

Justin McMillen (00:04:19):

The crown is supreme. Yeah, yeah. Wow. That's, that's a lot to live up to, man. Yeah. And that's beautiful. So. Okay, so, Remy, add a like. Yeah, I'll just read this because I'm talking about the retired Navy Seal, now retired, now retired. Like I got out in and 2016. Okay. So like, if I, if I did, I joined in 2022.

Remi Adeleke (00:04:41):

So I got out in, 2022. I would have done 20 years. I woulda retired, but I got I chose to get out after 13.5 years. Okay. Yeah. So separate it. Yeah. Yeah. We gotta listen to it. She, she doesn't know the difference between retired and we gotta. We gotta get that, filmmaker, which is exciting. I can't wait to talk about some of that today.

Justin McMillen (00:04:59):

Leadership coach. Yep. That's fair. Yeah. Author. Multiple books. Anti-human trafficking advocate. Yeah, yeah, I'm going to talk about that today, too. And then professor at University of Charleston and the adjunct professor, I just said, but yeah, it's, it's, it's a new journey that's been so freaking cool, man. I don't know. We want to talk.

Justin McMillen (00:05:19):

We'll get. Yeah, we'll get to that, too. So then your mother, Pauline, who we just heard a bunch about. Yeah. Fitness influencer. And she moved you and your brother from Nigeria, shortly after your father passed, which was unexpected and maybe even we'll talk about that instigator. Yeah, yeah. And you moved to the Bronx, so you went from being the son of a chief?

Justin McMillen (00:05:44):

Yeah. You always be the son of a chief. Yes. Always. Yes. But living a lifestyle one lifestyle. Two completely opposite riches to poverty. Yeah. And then, and then you, the Bronx, and then got into a lot of things that kids being raised by single moms without a father get into, join the Navy, go through that, Navy for multiple tours.

Justin McMillen (00:06:09):

Three tours. Right. Middle East. Yeah. And somewhere along the line of that, you found God. Yes. Yeah. And then, you even did some Bible studies in your unit, which is, which is really cool. And then since you retired, you got into Hollywood. Yep. Yep. Yeah. You're in Transformers. Yeah. We've all seen the Transformers jumping around and all that stuff, right?

Justin McMillen (00:06:31):

So you're filmmaker, actor, storyteller. Professor, like you said, leadership mentor. You just got back from a trip overseas, so you're still going back and doing some of the stuff you're doing before on the civilian side? Keyword was that was my last trip. Yeah, I was at. I was, my last, contracting gig is what we call it.

Remi Adeleke (00:06:55):

Okay. So, yeah, I was I was in a very volatile country and, working with some other a former special operation guys and some, government entities and, and, yeah, it was it was definitely, an interesting ride jumping back into that world. Hello? Hello. Where you going? Two months. Two months? Yeah, yeah. And they wanted me to stay until April level, which would have turned into about 3 to 4 months.

Justin McMillen (00:07:20):

And you got you have full family now? Yeah. For kids. Wife. Yeah. Yeah. Me too. Yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah. Hallelujah, Hallelujah. 1311. Seven and four. Okay. Yeah. We were right around the same 11, 1110, six. And my daughter would be five in October. So she's four. Yeah, yeah. Daughter is going to be five in May.

Justin McMillen (00:07:44):

Okay. So yeah, they did the same year. So yeah. What's the mix, boy three boys and my daughter's the youngest, so. Right. Exactly. Obviously I got my oldest is a boy and then they got three daughters. Oh there you go. There you go. That's crazy. Yeah, yeah. So, let's do. So you've told your life story a lot of times, but I think it's really important to get into this in order for people to really know who you are.

Justin McMillen (00:08:10):

And, so I'd like to go through that and just kind of background on you as I'm easy. Okay. So you were born in Nigeria? Lagos. Yeah. Lagos, Nigeria. Yeah. And tell me about Lagos. Like, tell me about Nigeria in general. How was it then? And how is it now? Yeah. So Nigeria has always been a, a country that's been rich in resources, which is afforded the country a lot of wealth.

Remi Adeleke (00:08:39):

But it's also been rich in corruption. Okay. A lot of people, a lot of young people, as they're deciding what they want to do in life, in their future here in the US, like young, the especially young inner city kids who grow up in poverty is like basketball and not for the most part. But this is often the trend that sports, is their way out.

Remi Adeleke (00:09:01):

Music or drug dealing, you know, like you said, you either selling crack rock or you got a wicked jump shot, right? And, but in Nigeria is different in Nigeria it's like pop music or politics. Right. Because you could go into politics dirt poor and come out a billionaire. Why. Because of corruption. And so, Nigeria has always been historically corrupt.

Remi Adeleke (00:09:24):

And you find in countries like Nigeria, the reason why the corruption is so high is because of the the massive amounts of resources that are well worth billions and billions of dollars gas. Right? Yeah, yeah. Natural gas. Oil in abundance. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, oil in abundance. A lot of minerals, gold, cocoa, as I mentioned, natural gas.

Remi Adeleke (00:09:45):

Well, I mean, so Nigeria has it all, you know, some people, some Nigerians, refer to Nigeria as the, as where, where civilization started. Okay. Because of how, I don't ascribe to that belief, but because of how many natural resources are in Nigeria. And so many brilliant, brilliant people come out of Nigeria.

Remi Adeleke (00:10:10):

Yeah. When you talk about engineering and science, it's so they believe that, Niger is a seat of, of where humanity started. And might be, might be true. It could be a little crescent and, but it's like, damn, you know, kind of. Yeah. And so, so that's Nigeria for you in a nutshell. And because of that, the extremes as it relates to riches and corruption, there's extremes as relates to poverty and riches.

Remi Adeleke (00:10:38):

There's no in between here. There's no Democrat. Right. You're you're either poor or you are absolutely rich. And I remember going back to Nigeria to finish writing my book in, 2018. And you could, you'll see, like a massive, beautiful compound, on the street next to like a chanty shack where you know, a family of like 10 or 12 me living.

Remi Adeleke (00:11:02):

Right. And so fortunately, my dad was very successful. He was, educated in the West, in fact, after his father died, my grandfather, my grandfather had, like, nine wives, kept on having girls. Finally, my dad was born to my grandmother. And so my dad was a first born son. So he took on a title chief at a lake.

Remi Adeleke (00:11:25):

Okay. And but then my grandfather died, and all of the wives with their kids kind of split and went to different parts of Nigeria. And my dad and I'm going down to Lagos. And at the time, they were Christian missionaries there. And they were not only did they teach like the Bible, but they taught science and math and literature.

Remi Adeleke (00:11:42):

And my dad was super smart. Like even before he my grandfather died, my dad had memorized a Koran. He had like this ability to just memorize things and I think I get that from him. I have a very photogenic memory, is easy for me to memorize, scriptures or memorize faces or memorize topics or memorize even, like I remember being in buds, and diving for the first time, and doing combat diving at night underwater.

Remi Adeleke (00:12:08):

And you have to memorize your, your kick count and your path. You're in your nav. Your nav plants. Why? Because you're underwater. Like, you're not like, oh, no, these are nothing. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Utilizing you got to remember the current all of these things. And it was always easy for me to hit my point because I was able to look at my chart.

Remi Adeleke (00:12:25):

We have a saying in our community, plan your diet off your plan. So it was easy for me to memorize my plan and then go out and dive it. And so, I think I get that from my dad. But anyway, my dad was able to memorize things. So when he got down to Lagos and the missionaries came around, and they taught him all of these topics outside of just the Bible, like he was able to memorize all of this stuff.

Remi Adeleke (00:12:44):

And so he was like, smart. He ended up getting a full ride academic scholarship to study architecture engineering in London. And, and he was so grateful to the missionaries that he added the name John. So his name was his John. His name was John Adebayo, Andy Lake. But he added the name John in front of his in front of his first name and made Adebayo his middle name and then moved to London.

Justin McMillen (00:13:06):

Wow. That's amazing. Yeah, yeah, it's a great example of how. Yeah, just I mean, somebody that's just shining. They can't be exactly, exactly. Yeah, yeah yeah, man. It was and a part of it too was also he wanted to show his gratitude, you know, to the missionaries for what they did. But, yeah, he was a beast man.

Justin McMillen (00:13:26):

How did he become a Christian during that period? You know, you know, I don't know, like to be honest with you. Like, I don't know. I know he was raised Muslim before he came down. But I don't know if he ever fully converted to Christianity. I'm honestly, I don't I don't know, but he got to London and and long story short, graduated with honors, did all these amazing things academically.

Remi Adeleke (00:13:50):

Got his bachelor's, his master's in both architecture and engineering. He was invited to be on the board of the World Trade Center in New York City. He was on the board of the British Financial Planning Council in Great Britain. And then after a number of years, that's when he decided to go back to Nigeria and essentially take all the knowledge and all the wisdom, everything he learned from the West and essentially try to build a, a World Trade Center, a center of commerce in Nigeria, that people from all around the world could come and do business because, as I mentioned earlier, like he was a visionary man.

Justin McMillen (00:14:24):

Yeah. That's so amazing. That's what he was. He got, like, took off in the hero's journey thing, right? Where he's getting to express these new towns he has, and then he scoops it all up and he comes home and he is like, all right, we're going to do exactly, exactly. And okay, I'm feeling it. And you're spot on, man.

Remi Adeleke (00:14:41):

I never even thought about that. The Hero's journey in conjunction with my dad's story. But that is essentially the hero's journey, which is like coming home with like, a thousand horses behind you. I hate you, right? It's like, oh, he's back. You fat girl. Weatherton. And I learned, you know, you learned everything. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's great. You learned on that journey.

Remi Adeleke (00:14:57):

And so he came back and, going back to what I mentioned earlier about the corruption in Nigeria. He, he knew that he was going to face obstacles, but he didn't care. And, as soon as he got back, he bought a massive plot of land called Morocco. This was in the 70s. He bought a massive plot of land called Marico, and, he bought it for about 8 million pounds.

Remi Adeleke (00:15:22):

At the time, and I was at pounds more than dollars. Sure. Just for inflation. That's that's like tens of millions of dollars. And, and then like, shortly after he did that, the Nigerian government fell. There was a military coup. And, a general essentially like kicked out. I don't, I don't I can't remember people got killed or anything like that.

Remi Adeleke (00:15:43):

But he kicked out the government. He was like, I'm the now, I'm the ruler of Nigeria. Everything belongs to me. And so he's trying to play a game in a, in a, in a place where there's no rules. Exactly, exactly. And like man, like I, I have found myself in situations where I've it's been easy for me to fall into that same trap where, you know, I get in my head and say, you know what?

Remi Adeleke (00:16:07):

Doesn't matter. That there's no rules, it doesn't matter. Like I can storm this mountain and make it, because I'm just such a focused, driven person. My dad was so focused and so driven. And, you know, there's a good side to being focused and driven, but there's also a bad side to me from designers. Right? Yeah. Exactly, exactly.

Remi Adeleke (00:16:25):

You know, and, and so, right when the military coup happened, they took us, they took Marico, they took Marico. And, fast forward to 81, 82 Marico that the democracy was reinstalled. So everything went back to essentially the way it was before the military coup. And, the, the guy who led the military coup kind of relented.

Remi Adeleke (00:16:49):

And my dad was able to, negotiate with the Lagos Federal Government for his land back. But they said, we're not going to give you Marico, because we're keeping that at this point, but we'll give you. Right? Yeah, that's really great. Yeah. But they said they said, we'll give you something else that's equivalent to the price you pay for Marico.

Remi Adeleke (00:17:11):

Oh, we'll give you your money back. And so my dad essentially said, hey, I want this. There was a lagoon in Nigeria, which was essentially a swamp. My dad was like, I want the lagoon. And they asked him, what are you going to do? It'll go. And he said, don't worry about it, because in my dad's mind he figured, you know what?

Remi Adeleke (00:17:27):

If I create something where there never was something there? Regardless of what happens, whether it's a military coup or, you know, the president decides to take it, they can never say that that was theirs because it never existed. So you can't say something was yours that never existed. Okay. And that's when me and my brother came around. So my brother was born.

Justin McMillen (00:17:43):

And he's smart. I mean, that makes sense. Exactly. Completely makes sense. It makes it makes sense in a logical country. Yeah. Right. Right. And with his rules. But in a very illogical country, still kind of make sense. But as time passes on, it begins to not make much sense at all. Yeah, I see his logic in it. Yeah, yeah.

Justin McMillen (00:18:02):

And I mean, he's trying to learn from what happened before. Yeah. And then the swamp too. It's like, who the hell was that swamp? Exactly, exactly. And he you when you like, when you go to Nigeria, man. Like even now, like I say, I was Dan to 2018. You'll see like trash islands man. Like I mean trash all in the water.

Remi Adeleke (00:18:18):

I mean, you know, you think you think TJ's trash problem. You know all the trash. It gets pumped into the oceans. Bad man. Gold in Nigeria, man. I remember, seeing, like, islands that were just trash islands. And you see these pigs? These. I only want to call them pigs, but they're freaking hogs. Just walking around the island with kids.

Justin McMillen (00:18:38):

They don't walk around half naked. Yeah. And so, extreme, extreme poverty. Extreme poverty. You mean when you went there, do you feel do you feel like, pull to the to to Africa to pull to that country is. Yeah. You know, I, you know, or is it like this? Not me. I mean, I'm, I'm an American.

Remi Adeleke (00:19:00):

I'm, I'm on the mat for me. Do like I think I'm an American man, you know what I mean? Like, I love America. I'll never be ashamed to say I love America, of course. Yeah. America has afforded me the life that I have. You know what I love about it? And one of the many things I love about America is that you could come here with nothing.

Remi Adeleke (00:19:18):

But if you put end to work, doesn't matter who you are, you can rise to the top, you know. And to come from where I came from, in America, where I started out in America to be where I'm at today, that's a blessing. Like, especially, you know, going back to the world that, you know, I'm sure we'll discuss a little bit later with the world I just came out of.

Remi Adeleke (00:19:40):

Yeah. You know what? I mean. And then coming back home to America and just the freedoms that we have, like, just freedom of speech, you know what I mean? Like the freedom to just be just traffic laws like red light. I ain't got to worry about turning green and then getting smashed. Yeah, yeah. Because people don't even pay attention to the they don't care about the traffic.

Justin McMillen (00:19:59):

Yeah. In other countries, you know what I mean is so man, America is such a freaking amazing place. But people say I am Nigerian. Yeah. I, you know, you know what I mean? Let me. I'm sorry I said it the wrong way. What I mean is, like. So one of the things that drew me to you as you, you appear to be drawn towards pain and suffering, and you have like a part of you that it justice is extremely important.

Remi Adeleke (00:20:23):

Yeah, 100%. And so forget about countries and borders. Yeah. When you're over there, did you feel drawn towards wanting to solve problems 100%. That's what that's what, 100%? You know, especially when I went to my dad's island, you know, which I'm sure we'll get to later is like the Nigerian government eventually took from them. So so swamp.

Justin McMillen (00:20:44):

Yeah. Go, go explain that. Okay, so it's a swamp and then. Yeah. So my dad's I mean my my brother was born at 81, I was born at 82. So when we were born we were born into the wealth because my dad was a multi-millionaire. So we lived on a compound. We had cars, we had drivers, we had nannies, we had cooks.

Remi Adeleke (00:21:02):

I mean, we went to lavish parties, like we hosted lavish parties. So that was the world I was born into. And, my dad. But I would say about a year or two after I was born, maybe three years after I was born, cause I born at 82, my dad finally got everything in order to start creating the island.

Remi Adeleke (00:21:20):

So what he did was he hired Dutch engineers from, Dutch engineers, from the Netherlands. And, they essentially dredged the foreshore, which dredging is essentially just to break it down. In layman's terms, it's like pumping sand, just pumping sand into an area body of water strategically as strategic parts, and then packing that sand, packing that, that, that ground, so to speak, until an island is formed.

Justin McMillen (00:21:48):

And so my dad started the process of doing that. And, so what are they doing in Dubai? That's the way doing Dubai, exactly what they do in Dubai. But your dad did it first. He did it for he did it before Dubai. I think the for. I think the first I could be wrong. Don't quote me on this, but I think the first country that did it was London.

Justin McMillen (00:22:04):

I'm sorry was the UK and Heathrow Airport because I believe in again I could be wrong on this. He through Heathrow airport. That area was water okay from what I from what I, from what I you know here too in town and one of the wealthiest places in all of this area is Balboa Island. And I've seen old pictures and it was just like marshes and waterways and somehow someone told me once that it's manmade.

Remi Adeleke (00:22:30):

And I don't know that. It's not that what you're talking about, but I think they kind of just shored up everything and kind of created a spot and then put concrete over it. Yeah. Turned it into, you know, similar type of deal. Yeah. Now I wouldn't be surprised. It's a thing like you said, Dubai is like really freaking do with the Palm Islands and and then like they creating like like art.

Remi Adeleke (00:22:53):

Yeah. You know, I mean yeah. All right. And so, so once all that art formed, I was probably around 4 or 5 years old at the time, and, my dad started signing contracts, doing deals with construction companies, to build buildings. And one of the as a matter of fact, the designer of the World Trade Center Nigeria was just Japanese, architect of the World Trade Center in New York City.

Remi Adeleke (00:23:21):

Wow. Yeah. Yamazaki and I met him when I was a kid, and that was one that not only was he was he my dad's architect, but he was like one of my dad's really, really good friends. My dad had, like, big friends. I mean, matter of fact, I remember, like, years after my dad died, I, I went I was going through a bunch of papers in my room because it was his file cabinet.

Remi Adeleke (00:23:40):

And my mom, captain, had, like, a bunch of my dad's, like, papers and stuff in it. And I found a letter from Ronald Reagan. Wow. Yeah, man. How Ronald Reagan is like, oh, you know, Remy. So my dad was born in 33, so, let's see the 80. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. Yeah. That's crazy. There's, there's probably people out there.

Remi Adeleke (00:24:03):

I can imagine you one day meeting somebody like, you're the chief's son and being like, yeah, I could see that. I don't know why I. I get contacted from people on social media all the time. As a matter of fact, on the drive up, I was talking to this guy who found me on Instagram, Nigerian guy. He owns like a super successful multimillion dollar textile company where he does, he has contracts with Chanel and, and and I think he said Louis Vuitton and a bunch of these other companies, he has a contract with the NBA and all of this stuff.

Remi Adeleke (00:24:34):

He's a designer. And he was like, dude, like, I can't believe. Like we were talking and I was like, he's like, I can't believe I'm talking to you. Like, because he knows my story. He knows my dad's story. And I get a lot of Nigerians, man, who, tell you this funny story. I remember being on a ship one day, when I was, I was doing a deployment with the Marines, and we were on the USS Peleliu, and I was standing in line in the chow hall line.

Remi Adeleke (00:24:57):

And these two just like coming to America, these two Nigerian guys in coveralls, they walk past me and they stop. They turn around because we all we wear we wear our name tags on our uniforms. And oh, and they said that like I was like, yeah. And then they start speaking to me in Europe and I. And Yerba was my first language, but I haven't spoken in years.

Remi Adeleke (00:25:15):

I lost it, sure. And they start to speak to me. You're one of my own. And now know what you say. And how could you not know your you know your language. You already at get you at it. Like, you know, that's it's like, how do you not know? So they literally like you're royalty and so they're immediately like oh my gosh.

Remi Adeleke (00:25:31):

Yeah. Yeah. And then and then they know they connect me to my dad's story. And, and a lot of people in Nigeria, I mean, most Nigeria know because everybody in Nigeria knows Banana Island. That's like everybody in California knows Beverly Hills. Right. And so because now the most the richest Africans on the planet live on. But an island, I was a call banana when my dad created it was called the Goon City.

Remi Adeleke (00:25:52):

Okay. And but they after what happened with the government happened. So I'll, I'll get to that and I can I'll get I get to but main point of what I was I was trying to say is like my dad's story, very prominent amongst Nigerian. Sure. And they know him as a visionary, as a guy who was ahead of his time, and as a guy who strive to do great things for his country.

Remi Adeleke (00:26:11):

And a lot of Nigerians resent Nigeria for what they did because especially because of how corruption still thrives in Nigeria. And I get messages all the time like, we are so sorry what our people did to your dad. You know, we're so sorry that that they stole your dad's land like, your dad was looking to make Nigeria better, and he's so he's building buildings.

Justin McMillen (00:26:31):

And how did it go down? So one day people are just like, sorry, this nice work. Yeah. So go ahead and take this now. Essentially, like after the land had fully formed and then like they started building buildings on the land and then people saw, oh, like, it worked like the buildings are not collapsing and falling down. An island is not seeking is sinking back into the water.

Remi Adeleke (00:26:53):

That's when the Lagos State government came in, went to my dad, and they said, hey, that land doesn't belong to you. The island doesn't belong to you. And they tried to use some janky law that said, the foreshore was too close to Lagos State. So because of that, it belongs to Lagos State. When it's like, okay, if that was the case, you saw this guy pumping sand where he was and creating the island for years.

Remi Adeleke (00:27:22):

This is something that happened over the course of a week. I mean, we're talking the number of years to be able to develop this island. And you didn't say anything then, but all of a sudden you wait till now to say that belongs there. So they started the process of confiscating the island in my as my dad. You know, my brother in law is a lawyer.

Remi Adeleke (00:27:40):

My dad had like, really powerful lawyers, in his pocket. And as they started fighting the Nigerian government, the federal, the state government, my dad started to get desperate. And it was going back to the corruption, right? There were people that just wanted it for themselves because they saw how, how, how lucrative that island was and could be like it was a boat.

Remi Adeleke (00:28:04):

It was essentially a gold mine. Sure. Because his land, I mean, how how much money does it cost to build a house on a in Beverly Hills or, and, you know, and then in San Francisco, it's a lot because land is very valuable. And people got greedy just like they do with oil. Now you get politicians that we talked about earlier that they'll go into politics, the people will go into politics to become billionaires.

Remi Adeleke (00:28:27):

How does that happen? You get somebody who goes to politics and they become, minister minister of oil. Right. And they'll start signing contracts with other countries. And then those contracts like the contract will be like, 2 billion, whatever the case may be. And in some strange way that the oil minister will get 1.8 billion in their pocket.

Remi Adeleke (00:28:50):

Yeah, right. It'll disappear in their pocket. Yeah. And into this country gets 200 million. Yeah. I mean, look at all this stuff that they're uncovering with Doge. Exactly. Yeah, exactly. That's a it's like doge is like what they're finding and uncovering is nothing compared to how it happens. And the reason why so many Nigerian troops are getting smoked and slaughtered by al-Shabab in the northern part of Nigeria is because they don't have enough bullets, they don't have weapons, their vehicles aren't maintained.

Remi Adeleke (00:29:18):

Why is that? Because the president will give. I guess I'm just throwing out a random number, $200 million to a specific state and say, hey, this is your money for the military, for the military to be able to go fight al-Shabab. Dude, 180 million goes into the pocket of that politician. And then what they do is they move that money to offshore accounts.

Remi Adeleke (00:29:39):

They move that money into bank accounts in London. I mean, it was a big story that came out a few years ago of the oil minister, who she had moved billions of dollars to London. And they tried to get her extradited to come back to Nigeria. But she was like, nope, I have cancer, I'm staying in London.

Justin McMillen (00:29:53):

Wow. Yeah. And so you know corruption is just is so rampant. It's like it's part of the culture. As a matter of fact, when I went back there I'm sorry for jumping all around. No, I'm just I'm totally fascinated. I can't even imagine like you. I can just actually, I can I can see your dad, like, melting down in your mom.

Remi Adeleke (00:30:12):

Yeah. That must have been the craziest time. Yeah. Keep going though. Yeah. No, don't. Mom. My mom was like. My mom was pissed because she told my dad this was going to happen. My mom was a New Yorker, you know what I'm saying? And so my mom's got a wisdom. She got street smarts. Yeah. You know what I mean?

Remi Adeleke (00:30:28):

And so my mom, born and raised in New York, her, her family's from eating to North Carolina. As a matter of fact, we like all of our. Where is that in North Carolina? That's, like, right on the water. Okay. It's right on the water. Is that upper be north? That's like central. Central. North Carolina, right on the coast.

Remi Adeleke (00:30:45):

Okay. It's a coastal town. And so my grant, as a matter of fact, because I know I'm jumping around, but I got hired to adapt the book into a limited series to write, to write the pilot and to write the series Bible for this TV series called Slave Stealers. And and we title, we change the title of the TV series From Slave Stealers to eating ten and eating ten was a was a was like a port town.

Remi Adeleke (00:31:08):

And so when slaves would come from Africa, they would stop at eating. Tim. And then there would be auctions right there, owning, eating right by the water. Is that still in play? This this movie? Yeah, it was still in play like the rights I would. Yeah I it was a work for hire deal for me. So I just got hired to write the project.

Justin McMillen (00:31:25):

But the producers have it and they're in my from what I understand and moving forward, we should talk about it because, we're working a ton with the state. Yeah. And I'm in North care. I'm in Wilmington, which is just on the way there. But if there's anything at all I can do, I've met so many people over there, but I know that if if it's contracted out and you're just.

Remi Adeleke (00:31:45):

Yeah. Yeah, I was just hired gun, man. Got it. Got to get you to write it. But, I forgot how I got on top of the meeting, and I probably shouldn't go. You know, my mom, my mom, she's, you know, she's from eating. And so that's where my family is from. My great my great grandparents are buried there and all of that stuff, and and so, you know, my mom, but my mom was raised in New York City.

Remi Adeleke (00:32:04):

And so she had the street smarts and street wisdom to tell my dad. Dude. All right, you need to put some money into us. Like, even before what happened with the government happened. The state government, she told my dad multiple times, put money in a bank account in America because all of our assets, all of our money was wrapped up in Ireland because my dad knew that once everything was, was set up, dude, he's going to get millions of dollars, $1 million checks every day.

Remi Adeleke (00:32:32):

Sure. Yeah, yeah. And he signed contracts with Marks and Spence, which was like a really big, just think of it like a Macy's. It was like a really big Macy's. Other companies, McDonald's, like, all of these other companies that were going to be on Lagoon City because Lagoon City was supposed to be like Wall Street.

Remi Adeleke (00:32:49):

It wasn't meant to be a residential island. It was meant to be a business sector. And so my dad has signed. So all of my dad's money was wrapped up in Ireland. And so, when that happened, my mom was pissed because she was like, I told you, you know, I told you this was going to happen. And, did she talk to you about how it was when they when that was happened?

Justin McMillen (00:33:07):

Oh, yeah. What? Yeah. Yep. She talked about all of the stuff that happened as far as threats. How was dad dealing with it as it was all unfolding? Was he stress the stress. And that's what ultimately he would go for walks. Yeah. When he would get really, really stressed out, he would go for walks. And people in our inner circle knew that.

Remi Adeleke (00:33:28):

And I which, which which brings me to how my dad ended up dying. So my dad one night, as he was fighting the government for all of this. And here's another thing the federal government did step in and say, hey, we're overriding you. This this we gave we sold that to him. That was his compensation. Like like his compensation for Morocco was the swamp.

Remi Adeleke (00:33:51):

That's if they didn't come in. They could have easily, like, squashed it all. As a matter of fact, general, General Dungy, I'll never forget his name. Like he was a he was a big general, and he was one of my dad's good friends. He could have said something, didn't do anything. You know what I mean? That do still life billionaire billionaire in general.

Remi Adeleke (00:34:11):

Dungy is a billionaire, right. And so, so my dad one night went out for a walk, and, and our neighbor's dog, Beto, right. Like, ran to Lakewood, like, the dog never bit my dad. It was like, knew my dad, like. So it was just very like it was essentially all set up. So my dad got there.

Remi Adeleke (00:34:32):

First thing you do in Nigeria, when you get bit by a dog is you go to the hospital, should have rabies shot. And of course everybody knew this. Okay. And, and we get to the point about the inner circle knowing my dad's pattern of life and what to do and how to essentially set him up. So my dad goes to the hospital, it gets, gets medication, and comes back home.

Remi Adeleke (00:34:56):

He doesn't take the medication right away because he felt it, right. He didn't feel like he needed to take the medication. He flew to, Germany for a business meeting and talk to lawyers about helping him on his fight. It's like me and my mom at that point, we had. And my brother, we had flown in New York because my mom was like, hey, I need to, we need to we need some time in New York.

Remi Adeleke (00:35:17):

Like, especially with all of this stuff. And sure, death threats and everything like that. So then my dad from from Germany to New York, saw me and my brother and my mom and it flew to Nigeria. So this is probably this took place over the course of about two weeks. He flies back to Nigeria, are made. Jane, she set the bat for my dad.

Remi Adeleke (00:35:38):

He took the medication, finally took the medication. He's like, oh, you know, I'm just go ahead and take it. He takes the medication, gets in the bathroom, maybe closes the door and leaves and he never comes out of the bathroom. Autopsy shows that, medication is ultimately what killed him. So the medication was poison, essentially. So somebody gave him intentionally gave him bad medication to kill him?

Justin McMillen (00:36:04):

I don't know what the right term is, but they poison it. Sure. Is that's that's that's on in the autopsy. That's documented. That's not that's not like, speculation, like the medication ended up killing him. And so my dad dies. How old were you in you? I was five, no. How old were you when you learned what happened?

Remi Adeleke (00:36:24):

Well, I didn't find out about it. Tell you that until you were. I didn't find it. Well, my mom always told me the story about him being bit by a dog and, like, him dying. And my mom was always, always told me was like the Nigerian government. But when I was, when I was prepping the book, when I was writing the book, I found the autopsy report, found the autopsy report, and I was able they obviously put two and two together.

Remi Adeleke (00:36:45):

Well, when my mom shared. But the autopsy says the medication killed him. It says that he was given bad medication. It was poison. Killed him. And so, and I think I think after I read that report, I put that in a book. But, but I say that it was all set up because after my dad died, he could no longer fight the Nigerian.

Remi Adeleke (00:37:07):

Yeah, yeah. And my half brother, because my dad was married years before. He'd been my mom, my half brother. He was a lawyer, but he was like fresh out of law school. But he went to law school in London. And, so he came back to Nigeria trying to fight. He is this young dude, probably in his mid 20s, trying to fight the Nigerian government.

Remi Adeleke (00:37:26):

And they're laughing at this dude because he has a British accent. They're like, you know, our ways. You know, know our system. So he couldn't really do much of anything. My dad's bodyguard driver to this day, to this day is one of the managers of the island. He got installed as the manager of the island after my dad died and everything happened.

Justin McMillen (00:37:48):

So again. Yeah. No, that's just not now. I can say that this is speculation as well. It's circumstantial, but. Holy shit. He was in on this is all. Yeah, he was in on it for sure. And so he's like super rich now. And he he runs the island to this day. He's all a lot older now. But he was my dad's bodyguard and and driver and kind of as a manager of Banana Island right after my dad's death and to this day, still the manager of the island, when you when you went back for the the end of the book, did you you had you in there, right?

Remi Adeleke (00:38:22):

You had what's the island that went to the island and, saw it drove around and it's it's it's like Coronado. I mean, obviously the quality of the builds aren't as nice as it did. It had the gravity. Did it hit you or were you just kind of. It was a surreal, like, I'm here, you know, it was, I want to say it was surreal.

Remi Adeleke (00:38:42):

It was just like, hey, I'm here, okay? I'm here. It was even. It was even hard to get on the island because you got to go through the security checkpoints and all this stuff. And so I had to, like, maneuver my way and to get in that built this and. Yeah. Yeah. So, so but when I was there, I was just like,

Remi Adeleke (00:38:59):

Interesting. You see, all of these mansions, you know, it wasn't meant what it wasn't, but, you know. Oh, honestly, dude, like, I'm like, this might sound weird to say, but I'm so grateful for the way things turned out because I. I would not be who I am today if it wasn't for what happened. Like all my half siblings.

Remi Adeleke (00:39:20):

As I mentioned, my dad was married years before he married my mom, but all my half siblings, they went to boarding school in the UK. They all have British accent accents. They all really posh and and only one of them out of the out of the three. Ever wanted to have anything to do with me and my brother?

Remi Adeleke (00:39:37):

Because they, they, they did not like my mom and so they would, you know. So, because she's American, because she's American from royalty type. She's not Nigerian and she, you know, and they just didn't like my mom, so they didn't like us. And so to be able to it's so interesting because I got contacted by one of my, my half brother son, who's I think he's probably like in his is probably mid 20s now.

Remi Adeleke (00:40:05):

And he reached out to me on Instagram. He's like, hey, we need to get the family together and do all of this stuff and build together and do all this stuff. And I'm like, dude, I got a different life now, man. Like, that sounds so cool now. But you guys are from a completely different world than I'm from.

Remi Adeleke (00:40:21):

Yeah, you know what I mean? You know, if you wanted to do all of that, we we could have done all of that, you know, years, years ago. But your family didn't wanna have anything to do with us. So this is not me being vindictive and getting back, but it it just doesn't work in my system anymore to trying to partner with you guys on anything.

Justin McMillen (00:40:36):

Yeah, it's crazy too, because you're. First of all, I think your dad be incredibly proud of what you've done. Yeah, yeah, just based on the. I feel like I have a sense of his character and. Yeah, I don't know, it's, if you've been seeing what you built, like, so far in your family and your life, and I mean, like, now.

Remi Adeleke (00:40:57):

Yes. But when I joined him, for me joining the military, I've been pissed because it's like it's just because. Because in Nigeria, families do, like, it's all about college. And like, you've a college degree equivalent to a dean of a Nigerian family, right? Like in order for you to be considered successful meeting the standard, you have to have a master's degree.

Remi Adeleke (00:41:15):

And most Nigerian I meet and most Nigerian parents. You're right, their expectations are doctor, lawyer, engineer. Sure. Right. So I have one brother who's a half brother who's a doctor. I have my my brother for a lot of brothers, an engineer and I and John, my half brother is a lawyer. Right. And then and like and so it's like that's like, oh, you better start some successful business and end up like, like revolutionizing, like some type of.

Remi Adeleke (00:41:40):

So he's still watching. He's still you might think he's still judging me. Like, what are you going to do? You know, like being a CEO. He would have been like like it's like, yo, you're a clown if damn, I have been a clown until I became a ceiling like I that that like that changes things here. That definitely.

Justin McMillen (00:41:55):

Yeah. That's so cool. Yeah I can what's, what's really interesting about what you're saying. And I think about this a lot and I, I'm guessing you do to having four kids is, if your children are raised in, in a posh environment. Yeah. And they don't they don't develop on the edge possibly that maybe you were blessed with.

Justin McMillen (00:42:13):

Yeah, I was blessed with. Yeah. And if you don't have that, then how do you create that for somebody. It's born. And you know, I think about all the time when my kids have everything I never had. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like like how do you recreate the kind of, I don't know, I it's hard, man. I mean, like, my thing is it's, it's, it's it's hard.

Remi Adeleke (00:42:35):

It is easy. You know, it can be hard. But it also also it can be easy. I think it all depends on your partner, you know what I mean. And I find that like for me I want my kids to not have like an extremely hard life or a hard life, but I want them to be challenged.

Remi Adeleke (00:42:51):

Yeah. You know an Aries I was actually having this conversation with my, both of my, my two oldest sons this weekend because, my, my youngest, my oldest son, the night they both play basketball. Right. Yeah. This basketball team, they play in his basketball league. And I was coaching the team before I left. I was a coach for both of my kids.

Remi Adeleke (00:43:15):

They on two separate teams before I left. And so when I got back this past this weekend was my first weekend back. Wow as well where I was able to watch their games. And I still kind of coached in which I know I'm sure some of the coaches also don't want to sound like me, but, but my my son, my oldest son the night before his game because my, my, my second oldest son, my second son, he had a game on Saturday.

Remi Adeleke (00:43:38):

I was there and then Sunday was my oldest son game. And he said something to my wife. And, and so my wife comes into the room the next night and she was like, Katie wants doesn't want you to go to his game because the x, y, z, he wants me to go instead. And I was like,

Remi Adeleke (00:43:57):

I was like, that doesn't make any sense. I was like, I need to have a conversation with him. And she was like, no, don't have a conversation with him. Like, don't tell him that I told you and this and I'm like, Jessica, like my job as a man is to raise his kid up to be a man. He's going to be a man one day.

Remi Adeleke (00:44:16):

A man. Being a man is not easy like any man. And Saint says that being a man is easy. That dude is not a real man. Like it's a challenge. Like there's a lot of responsibility. And especially when you have a family. And I told my wife, I said, if he can't have, if I don't create a space where he can learn how to have a challenging conversation with me, then he's not going to feel strong enough to have a conversation with another man about something that he doesn't like when he becomes a man.

Remi Adeleke (00:44:45):

And she was like, no, that's not true. My Jessica, listen, you're a woman. No offense, but you don't know how to turn this guy into a man. You've never been straight. I said, I need to have this guy. She argued with me about having this conversation with him, and. And finally, I said, I don't care what you say.

Remi Adeleke (00:45:01):

I'm having my career not just with him, but my other son, because I want them to feel comfortable to say whatever they need to say with me. Obviously, with respect. And, and then, you know, if they're right, this is my job as a father to be like, you know what you're absolutely right about. You said, I take the hit, I'm going to do better in that area.

Remi Adeleke (00:45:19):

And so, dude, the next morning, dude, we, you know, my wife, I go out to the garage to go do something, and my kids all downstairs, and my wife went up to my kids, my son, and said, your dad's going to have this conversation with you about X, y, z. And like, I was upset because I'm like, dude, you shouldn't have said that to him.

Remi Adeleke (00:45:40):

You know what I mean? Like, you need to let me like like let him be a man. Allow me to be a father and allow him to, to, to to grow out of this experience. Because that's part and it's gone. And this all speaks to, to your point about, like creating a hard environment for your kids so that they can they don't grow up being that when they don't grow up being someone that that's weak, right.

Remi Adeleke (00:46:04):

And so when we got in the car, I said to my sons, I said to both of them and to all the sons, because we both work, drove the game. And I said, hey, what's daddy's job? You know? And I was like, okay, dad's job is for me to teach you how to be a man. And being a man is hard and prepare you for manhood.

Remi Adeleke (00:46:18):

And part of that is, you know, as I mentioned, this is you guys being able to have tough conversations with all the men and challenging conversations. And I said, and I was like, none of you. And I told was like, both of you guys are not in trouble, Katie. You're not in trouble. I'm glad that you say you share with your mom what you share with her.

Remi Adeleke (00:46:35):

The night before. Kudos. You're not getting in trouble for that. That's. I don't want you to think. Think that. But why do you think this? Tell me why you think this. And let's let's have. And we had a great conversation, dude. We had a phenomenal conversation. And I told him at the end of the conversation, I said, good.

Remi Adeleke (00:46:53):

Now, any time you feel like you feel or think, whether you're right or wrong, that daddy's doing something wrong as a father, you have an open door policy to come to me and be like, daddy, I feel like you're doing this wrong. Can we have a conversation about it? Right. And and that's good, right? Yeah. And so and so dude, like everything was great.

Remi Adeleke (00:47:15):

And here's a here's a crazy thing yesterday. Right. And I was able to I haven't brought this up to my son yet, but I was able to kind of use this as a case study to talk to my wife about it yesterday. But yesterday, like, I want to say, it was a God thing, but my wife comes into my office and it's almost ties to that conversation about, like, preparing my kids and, and our kids and, like, creating an environment for them to grow and learn, like, even even though they have everything.

Remi Adeleke (00:47:44):

Right. And so my wife comes into my office and she's like, hey, the fridge is broken again, right? We have this nice subzero fridge. And before I left, it had broken and the sort of fridge stopped working. But the freezer worked and this guy came to fix it. He fixed it, but then everything but but like, literally the next day after he fixed it, the fridge started leaking and I left you know, I left to go overseas for that job.

Remi Adeleke (00:48:10):

And so my wife, while I'm gone, she contacts the fridge repair guy and she's like, hey, can you come back and fix the fridge? Like it's it works or it's cold. Now, the fridge side of it, but it's leaking. And he was like, he's like, I'll do it for $80 because my wife found him through the insurance company.

Remi Adeleke (00:48:29):

An insurance company. She had it just to pay like 60 bucks. And because of what the cost is, he comes in. It could be $1,000, but she pays a 60 bucks. An insurance company, and. And this guy, you know, comes in, they send somebody out and he comes fix it. He he's like, either you could pay the $60 insurance company and maybe send me out.

Remi Adeleke (00:48:45):

Maybe they won't. Or you can give me $80. Now, come on, right now, fix it. And my wife was like, what? He was like, yep, take it or leave it. And then he pretty much hung up the phone on her. And I wasn't here for that. Sure. And so, so she comes into my office yesterday. She's like, the fridge is not working again.

Remi Adeleke (00:49:03):

Like, not only is it still leaking, but like that same issue we had when that guy came the first time. Like, he's not like he's he's he hung up on me when you were gone and he when he hasn't come to fix it. So I'm like all right what do you want to do. She's like, I don't know.

Remi Adeleke (00:49:17):

I don't know what to do. She was like, I don't know, should I call him back or should I call up the insurance company? Like, we need to fix the fridge because the fridge is down. And I was like, I was like, let me handle this and give me his phone number. Let me, let me, let me.

Remi Adeleke (00:49:30):

I think he needs a male touch because a lot of these, I mean, you don't know. It's like it's different when when it's a woman having a young again people. Me. All that sexism, that's just a reality. Oh, it's true, you know what I mean? It's like. Like, that's why when I every car that I bought for my family, I'm going to the dealership.

Remi Adeleke (00:49:47):

I'm not sending my wife to the dealership, I'm going to the dealership because she's going to encounter another man. He's going to try and see her as a victim. He's going to see her as like fresh meat, and he's going to try and take a manager and talk and all of this stuff. It's just human nature. It's this.

Justin McMillen (00:50:01):

Yeah, it's it's the way it's the power dynamic between yeah, men and women. There's like, yeah, there's all kinds of that going on 100%. And so like, I called him up, he answered his phone on first ring was like, and again, this is going to the point of if I didn't have the confidence because somebody didn't teach me the confidence to go challenge another man respectfully.

Remi Adeleke (00:50:23):

Then I wouldn't have done that. And there's so many men. And I told my wife, there's there's so many men, there's so many husbands that they will not do that they will not assert themselves in the situation because they're scared. Yeah. Because they never were trained to go challenge another man. You know, they weren't trained that way.

Remi Adeleke (00:50:41):

So it's like instead of them handling their wives have to him or they just sit on the couch like, oh, I don't want to deal with that. I don't want to avoid the weight. Yeah. And so you know, I called them up. I said, hey, listen, I was super respectful. I was like, hey, I just want to let you know, you know, my wife, you came to the house, and I remember talking to you when you came to the house, and the fridge is having this issue, and it started right, right after you left.

Remi Adeleke (00:51:03):

I need you to come fix it. He was like, oh, he's like, I don't remember that. I was like, and I gave my address like, oh, yeah, I remember I said, my wife says, she spoke to you and said that, you know, you said X, Y, and Z. And he, he said, he's I don't remember talking to you.

Remi Adeleke (00:51:15):

And I start stuttering. I don't remember talking to your wife. I don't remember that. I don't want to have done that. Again, I was like, okay, regardless of what happened, I just need you to come fixes like, I'll be there Monday. No charge. I'm not charging you at all to come fix everything. Right. And that just goes to that point of what I was mentioning were like, kids, they need to learn.

Remi Adeleke (00:51:35):

Especially boys. They need to be able to learn how to challenge other men, you know, especially when they're being confronted. So that so I'm going to have that conversation. I've already had the conversation my wife like, see how that works? You know, but it's it's it's a the idea just of going toe to toe with another man and and it has there's a several versions of that.

Justin McMillen (00:51:58):

Right. So but being comfortable with. Yeah okay. Like aggression. Yeah. Or taking it one step further. Just like sparring they can do that. Boxing one step further is like what do you do in some of the screaming in your face? You know, so you're teaching your boys like that's a very starting point. Just you got to learn to be uncomfortable.

Remi Adeleke (00:52:17):

Yeah. That's. Yeah. That's it. And so go at it. Going back to it's it's all about the partners right. Sure. Like like if you and your partner on the same page about hey yes we have we live in this big house and we have all these things, but we are going to set these rules in place to challenge our kids so that that way they don't grow up spoiled brats and they don't grow up victims.

Remi Adeleke (00:52:39):

They don't grow up people who can't stand on their own two feet because they've just been handed absolutely everything. Right. And so it starts with both parents getting on the same page. And once they do, then like everything is easy. It's easy. Like my kids, they got to clean their room. They got to they got to freaking do their own laundry.

Remi Adeleke (00:52:56):

Like they they can't go to a movie unless they earn points. They got to earn points like it's like, oh, we're going to the movie because there's no movie came out. You know, no movie came out. You didn't earn points from doing what you supposed to do. You ain't going to the movie. We get the same thing in my house.

Justin McMillen (00:53:10):

If they ask me for something, I'm like, you know that you don't ask me unless everything in this house is dialed. Exactly. So is that done first? Yep. No. Well, then why are you even asking me? So go. Go handle all the things that you know you need to handle. Yeah, and then come to me afterwards. Exactly. So it's music to my ears.

Justin McMillen (00:53:25):

You talk in that way. Exactly. I do think about it, though, man. It's like, what I was getting at earlier, I guess, is that you were raised in this environment where you had at the beginning, you had everything you could ever want. Yeah, yeah. And then dad's gone that stripped. Yeah. You know, and you were in your story.

Justin McMillen (00:53:43):

You're coming back to. You're now moving to the US, right? Yep. But to go from one world to another, it forces you to rebuild yourself, which is kind of like transformed. And there's the, the book and, so, so continue with the story because I think people need to hear this is fascinating. So dad's gone. Mom's like the obvious thing is moved to the States, right?

Remi Adeleke (00:54:09):

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Because she's Americans. She's like, I raised this. Yeah. And this is where I got people. Right. So this drop, she's smack dab in the middle of the Bronx. Yeah, yeah. And you remember this? You remember it? Yeah. Well, one thing I remember is you've been to the US though, right? Yeah, I've been to the U.S, but one thing was my mom, our apartment, she did a really good job of like masking the reality of what had happened.

Remi Adeleke (00:54:35):

So she kept our apartment pristine, clean. She had like a bunch of my dad's books and artwork that she would like spread out around our part of Grand. Our apartment was small, especially in comparison to the house we were living in, but she did a real good job of, like, keeping everything, like creating a little Legos. We lived on an island called Victoria Island in Nigeria, which is again, that's like a Beverly Hills Coronado, like taking Victoria Island and putting it in our little apartment.

Remi Adeleke (00:55:02):

Right. And, and then keeping us from the streets, you know, doing what she could do to. And I remember, like, my dad had, she had use, like, the last bit of money to try and keep us in this private school in New York City. We were in that private school for maybe, like two years, and after that, she just couldn't afford it anymore.

Remi Adeleke (00:55:24):

But it was like little things like that. So that that way we had some type of semblance of what had happened, what we once had. And, it wasn't until the culture shock that it come until years later, once I was able to, like, get out of the house and walk to the corner store and play basketball in the basketball court and like, see crackheads and take the bus and walk to school and all of this stuff on my own once I was able to, because that was another thing my mom had, like this car and she named the car more.

Remi Adeleke (00:55:53):

Nikki was like a Nigerian Yoruba name. And so once that car died, it was like, I get out there in the streets. You telling me what? You know what I mean? And so that's when it changed. I was probably when I was like about eight years old. Eight, nine. Does she talk about what it was like to try to rebuild that?

Remi Adeleke (00:56:14):

I mean, she must have been heartbroken, sad and just devastated. She was. And then now she's got the kids too. And I mean, like, my mom never really showed it, man. Okay. She's that she was just an idea. She was just that Spartan freak in the war. Yes. Yeah. You know how she is on social media now. She was that same way.

Remi Adeleke (00:56:32):

Like, just like I head down, got to keep moving. Nice. And, and I remember, I mean, even when she, when she told us our dad died, like, I'll never forget that because she was she said it in such a calm way. She we all sat down on this couch, this red couch. I'll never forget it. But my brother on one side, me on the other side.

Remi Adeleke (00:56:53):

And she just said, that's such a Conway. Your dad has died and he's not coming back, and it's just going to be us. Not a tear in her eye. She was super calm and so me and my brother looked at each other. I mean, when we're young, so we don't fully understand what death means and what death is.

Remi Adeleke (00:57:07):

And our dad traveled a lot anyway, so it was like, oh well, he always travel, so she had said in such a calm way. We just said, okay. And we went back into our room and we started playing with our toys as if nothing happened. You know what he was saying? And, in our community, the military and special Operation Calm breeds calm brain.

Remi Adeleke (00:57:24):

So she was so calm. That is just like. All right. She's not crying and hysterical and freak. All. Your dad died. Oh, what are we going to do? She was so calm that it was just like, okay, we were calm. You know? I didn't cry for my dad dying until I was like. Until, like, three years later, I was eight years old.

Justin McMillen (00:57:38):

That makes sense. You know what I mean? It makes sense because you you don't know. Yeah. There's no way you could know at five or. Yeah, exactly. And so, so my mom did a real good job of keeping it together, you know what I mean? And in the midst of chaos and. Yeah, man, I didn't see her cry on this year, you know, do any of that stuff until years and years later in life.

Remi Adeleke (00:58:02):

I just saw her work hard. She would bus her ass and just work multiple jobs to, like, provide for my brother and I. And, you know, she would run and she would run the steps. It would be, we had 17 floors and our building. And so, like, she would wake up, like, way before me and my brother woke up, run the steps for work.

Remi Adeleke (00:58:17):

Out, up, down, up down, up, down, up, down. Because she couldn't afford a gym membership. And then like, she would come make breakfast for my brother and I, you know, kids ready for school, take us to school, come back, you know, work her job. You know, my grandmother, my mom's mom would help out after school watching us while my mom worked.

Remi Adeleke (00:58:39):

And then she would come back. She would make dinner for my brother, my grandmother. Kind cook. She hate because she hated cooking. And, and, she would come back, help my brother make dinner, feed us, help us with our homework. And then she went back to working. She worked. And then she would do that nonstop, you know?

Justin McMillen (00:58:55):

I mean, like, working another job because she was, she was a teacher in a public, in the South Bronx. Okay. During the day. And then she had, like, her writing job that she had. Oof! Sorry. Keep going. No, no, no, that was that was. I was just thinking about it. So you obviously have a lot of your dad's talents.

Remi Adeleke (00:59:13):

Like you just gifts. Yeah. And do you remember when you. Do you remember any times when you were younger realizing that you had some of those. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I remember I was I'll never forget it actually, I was I to say I was like 17 or 18 and I had started a record company, and I was selling drugs and doing all the phones and doing all this stuff to make money to fund a record company.

Remi Adeleke (00:59:40):

And I remember there was like a community center that I had rented out, in the complex I grew up in, and I had all the rappers that I had, science and record company and guys were working with the record company come through, and my uncle Mike came through and, I gave this speech about like, we're going to win, we're going to do this.

Remi Adeleke (00:59:59):

And, you know, everything's going to be on the up. We got the best artists in town. We're going to be the next big thing out of you of. And my uncle came up to me afterwards, and he has since then moved to say he lives not too far from me in San Diego. And he said, man, he's like, remember, you got a gift, man?

Remi Adeleke (01:00:15):

He was like, you got a gift for, like, motivating people and for like, and for business, like you. I wasn't expecting you to be expecting you to give that speech and to and to be so structured and then know what your plans are for this business. And so I, like I had no clue. And he was like, you got to get you got to go far.

Remi Adeleke (01:00:33):

And and that's when I, that's when I realized it when I was like, oh man, I got, I got a gift to make, to do business and to create businesses and to create something that could turn into financial prosperity. And that was when I was about 17, 18 years old. And I came from my dad was he had business.

Justin McMillen (01:00:51):

It was uncle. In your life earlier, was there any male figures in your life growing up? I had like so my uncle Mike. I didn't meet my uncle Mike until I was like, maybe like 12 or 13. He had moved to the Bronx. I want to see around that time, which was not too far from me. So he was in my life, but that he had his family, you know, I mean, he was married and he had his two kids.

Remi Adeleke (01:01:13):

And then he moved to New Rochelle. Nice area, which is like the suburb, like north of New York City. And and he was still in my life, but he had to focus on this kid and his son, Jordan was and, there with muscular dystrophy. Okay. And, Jordan end up dying when he was 12, and so, like, and I was one of the reasons my, my uncle Mike moved in.

Remi Adeleke (01:01:33):

He moved to San Diego after my Jordan died. I was in the teams at the time, and he was just like, hey, like, you're my son now. Like, like like you all you always been in my life. Like you're my sanity, my kid, my kids. He treats my kids like those are his grandkids. Like he's like, he's like, those are my grandkids, you know what I mean?

Remi Adeleke (01:01:50):

And so, Okay. Like, so Uncle Mikey, he's a good dude, man. Real, real good dude. And, and then my Uncle Curt, which was Uncle Mike's sisters, his sister's husband. Okay. So, like his son, Cordell was my cousin. He was. Yeah, a lot younger than me. And I would, you know, my high school wasn't too far from his elementary school.

Remi Adeleke (01:02:12):

So I would pick him up from elementary school sometimes and walk him home. And, you know, when I started getting into selling drugs, I got a nice car. So he would always love when I would drive my nice Lincoln up to, to school. And all girls like, oh, you get that nice car. You could see this little kid.

Remi Adeleke (01:02:26):

He'd get in the car and I drive him home. My Uncle Kurt was in, And he was a Green Beret. Okay. In the Army. He had Jack up his back and got medically retired, but, like. So I would talk to him from time to time, like. And I remember one time I got in trouble with my mom.

Remi Adeleke (01:02:40):

My mom didn't know who to call, so she call her my Uncle Kurt. My uncle Kurt. I never forget he picked up for it like he, my white. My mom hands me the phone and I'm like, what's up? And he's like, you know, you stepping on your dick, boy? It's so good. I had never heard that of this one.

Remi Adeleke (01:02:56):

I'm like, what? What? Like, what are you talking. He's like you stepping on your stomach, like, yeah, this is your first step into the military. But way before it happened. Yeah. Hey, I'll never forget that. Yeah, he's still alive. He's cool. I was actually talking to him when I. When I, he hit me up when I was overseas, and I was like, yeah, I can't talk right now.

Remi Adeleke (01:03:14):

I'm like, in the middle of something. Obviously, he didn't know. I went over and then and a he's like, handle your business, handle you business. Then when I got back, a couple weeks ago, we talked on the phone. He's like, I know what you I know what you know. I know this world. He's like, yeah, I know you can tell any of him because they don't understand.

Remi Adeleke (01:03:30):

They don't understand the warrior life. And I was like, yeah, because my uncle Mike was pissed when I went. Sure. He's like, do, what are you doing? You got a family. You walked away from that life, like, what are you doing? And I was like, uncle Mike. Like, I'm part of the warrior class. Like when you when you get the call and you have the means and the ability, you answer that call like, you know, not everybody understands that.

Justin McMillen (01:03:49):

But my Uncle Kurt, I was able to talk to him about it. He understands that, you know. Sure. Wow. That's okay. So. Yeah. Yeah. You're so you're in New York, you're running around. You said you're selling drugs to cell phones, so you got into some trouble. Yeah. And and then that led you to the Navy? Yeah. Can you can you explain that?

Remi Adeleke (01:04:14):

Jump? Yeah, man. I, sold some, sold some phones to a drug dealer, and it was supposed to last for 90 days. There's a whole lot more to the story, but I condensed at the time, and they only lasted for like, 30 days. There were people who were because I was selling legal phones. They were people who were getting caught doing what I was doing.

Remi Adeleke (01:04:31):

They were getting, prosecutors at the federal prison because it was a federal crime. Because, oh, you know, we we identities there it was identity theft. And my and I used, I had a guy who I went to high school with and his his girlfriend worked in a hospice center. So I was I was using the identity of people who were dying in order to activate these phones, and, and so, like, I think that was one of the reasons why I got away with it as long as I did.

Remi Adeleke (01:05:01):

Because once you. Dad, you're not worried about your credit anymore. Yeah. But they were other guys that were, like, they were just stealing people's information. And then it was. It was getting investigated. And these people, my office and we. I mean, we make it like tens of thousands of dollars because, we would activate the phone, you on one person's line of credit, you could activate three phones, and I would sell the phones for anywhere between 300 a pop to $800, depending on the style of phone, and they would last for 90 days.

Remi Adeleke (01:05:31):

And then after 90 days, the phone would cut off because their bills weren't, weren't paid. And, and so, so I, you know, I sold these phones to this drug dealer. Like, I didn't want to, like, I wanted to sell, like I was doing, like, one here. One day, the client's like, each client got 1 or 2 phones.

Remi Adeleke (01:05:49):

Max. Sure do. Wanted to buy bulk, because when I later found out, as he was going to flip it him. Right. Okay, so whatever I sold him to, he would double the price and he was 11 drug dealers like the phones because, you know, back in the day, technology was brand new, kind of really traced, tracked the phones and drug dealers to have a phone for 90 days, throw it away, get a new phone.

Remi Adeleke (01:06:09):

You just keep moving like that. And so, so, yeah, the phone's cut off in 30 days, and my entire, like, office, essentially. And, I was terrified because I was like, all right, I got caught, and I wasn't scared about him killing me, but he came to my house, threatened my life because I had spent all this money, gave him the money back.

Remi Adeleke (01:06:30):

And then I was like, that was my wake up call. That was my okay, I need to get out of this life. Because if I don't get out of this life, I'm going to end up dead or in prison. And so, I had watched two films earlier, years earlier. One was Bad Boys, the second one was a rock Bad Boys kind of inspired me to because I felt like, okay, here are two guys who look like me.

Remi Adeleke (01:06:51):

And they have like, they still have us, maintain who they are and street mentality. But the heroes. Yeah. So I was the first film. I was like, oh, I could be a hero. And then the second film was a rock, and I watched the Rock, and that was my first exposure to Navy Seals. And then, that's what I, when I decided, you know, I was 15 at the time, I decided I had to turn my life around, to be a seal.

Remi Adeleke (01:07:12):

And then fast forward to after everything happened with the drug dealers, like, I'm gonna go be a seal. Okay?

Justin McMillen (01:07:19):

And so, which is not common now. Yeah. I mean, you're, what percentage? Probably a very small percent of Navy Seals are are black after. Yeah, less than 1% are African-American. Okay. Yeah. Less than 1% of African-Americans. Matter of fact, just to shout out my, my new, Kegel shirt, it's called Black Ops.

Remi Adeleke (01:07:35):

This is this is a prototype with titles. It's like, is this you? This is your company. Okay? This is my this is Michael. Okay? We got him. We got, Oh. Nice. So this is a prototype. We might put the image on the front, but, you know, just to pay homage to, like, you know, that 1%, less than 1% of, you know, African-Americans serve a special operation.

Remi Adeleke (01:07:55):

So we got a whole collection coming out.

Justin McMillen (01:07:56):

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Remi Adeleke (01:08:04):

But also the, to say, the rarest of the rare. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's. Yeah, yeah, you don't need to expand it. And then when you get down to, like, guys from the Bronx, that is like, I think I was like the first, the second guy from the Bronx to make it through Seal training.

Remi Adeleke (01:08:20):

And then you get down to guys from the Bronx who by way of Nigeria, like this was the first Nigerian American to become a seal, you know, so it's like that. It's like a percentage of a percentage of a percentage. But, but yeah, that was kind of how it happened. I went to a recruiter office and it's a again, long story short, I had warrants out for my arrest and and no, she went advocate on my behalf.

Remi Adeleke (01:08:42):

Talk to both judges. I had a warrant Jersey one in New York. Both judges said, hey, we'll clear your warrants. Clear your record. You just got to pay court. Fine. Since you're trying to join a military after an act of war. 911. And, that's how I was able to get to the Navy, man. Wow. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Justin McMillen (01:08:59):

Bless her heart, Yeah. She's a good woman. Yep. So she's stood up for you? Yep. That got you in the door? Yep. It's. I mean, same way, like, you know, talking to some of you guys out there, you know, same way, like, people, like, man stood up for everybody out there, you know, it means just like, hey, I see these guys probably every two weeks, somebody is going to court for somebody here.

Justin McMillen (01:09:19):

Yeah. You know, my one of my best friends over there put on a suit and roll up to the bench and be like, yeah, release this guy to us. We got a guy over there right now who came to us in lieu of going to jail. Yeah. Young guy and night, like 25. Yeah, yeah, it was a very similar story.

Justin McMillen (01:09:37):

And it's like, yeah, one shot, come, come with us. And we're going to kick kick his ass and push him really hard. And hopefully it turns out, well. If it doesn't you know that's. Yeah. Similar thing. Yeah. So you in the Navy it's probably where you got a lot of like what you're talking about earlier around. Yeah. Standing up for yourself or not stand for yourself and just learning how to be a man.

Remi Adeleke (01:09:59):

Yeah. You know what I mean. Like, buds, big time, bro. I'm like, buds. Because, like those instructors, man. Like, that was my first time seeing, like, a consistent example of, like a man's man. Like a dude that's a warrior who keeps his calm. You know, and just to speak to that and, you know, in, in America and the Bronx and in a lot of inner cities because of the absence of men and fathers, you have a lot of emotional dudes.

Remi Adeleke (01:10:32):

Yeah. You know what I mean? Like a lot of emotional who don't think they react out of emotion. Right. Like, I truly believe that, you know, God, God created men. And I want I want to make sure I say this the right way. But women are more emotional than men. Naturally that's necessary. I think that's, well, defensible by data.

Justin McMillen (01:10:52):

I don't exactly even argue exactly. But you know how people are all yours. Well, it's they can say whatever. It's I mean, there's there's plenty of data to support what you're saying because there's that nurture aspect that comes with nurturing kids. Yeah. And, and it's like, we need mothers. We need fathers like fathers, you know, they hey, there's a mission.

Remi Adeleke (01:11:12):

I gotta go knock off the mission. I'm not thinking emotional emotionally. I'm thinking about what needs to be done. And so when you live in an environment where all the fathers are gone, all all the boys and girls, but boys, you know, especially all they have is an example of, hey, react out of emotion, make emotional decisions. Right?

Remi Adeleke (01:11:33):

Because it takes a man to make a man. Right. And you know, so they just follow that example. And that's why you get a lot of kids that pull out a gun and shoot somebody in the face. Or you said, no, my shoes. Bam, you know what I mean? Because they're thinking emotionally, oh, you disrespected me. Bam. Right.

Remi Adeleke (01:11:48):

And that's why you have a lot of crime in these inner cities because of the absence of fathers. And so, like all I had with my mom and my mom is a great woman, but she's not perfect. And so, you know, my mom still being a mom, nurturing. And, I mean, my mom cried when I was like, like, you're going to die.

Remi Adeleke (01:12:03):

Don't do that again. Going back to, like, you know, women, just part of that protective, nurturing nature is to make decisions out of emotion. Sure. Right. And again, it's necessary. Right. Just like men make decisions out of, out of a different box women. But and the the benefit is when those two come together. Yeah. Work together. Right.

Remi Adeleke (01:12:23):

And so my mom was. Don't make that decision. You're going to die. They're going to put you in the front lines, yada yada yada. Now if I would have responded and and and reacted to her request because of her emotional decision, I want to be where I'm at today. Right. It's true. And so so you know again it's it's necessary.

Remi Adeleke (01:12:41):

Right. Just like with my wife. Oh I don't want you to talk to me. Talk to Caden about the conversation he had with me. Because if you do he's going to think he's in trouble and blah blah, blah, blah. It's like, that's an emotional response. But you got to look at this logically, right? I got to be a to have this conversation with Rachel.

Justin McMillen (01:12:57):

But so we both need to come together and meet somewhere in the middle. Right? I need to have the conversation, but I can't be screaming. I'm like, why did you go talk to your mom and blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. I was foolish, right? It's so interesting. This woman's like, it's almost like they're there. It's this comfort and like, care.

Justin McMillen (01:13:12):

Yeah. Versus like a man where it's like temperance. So it's just like, slightly tapping until it becomes like, pounding on. So it's like, you understand, when you go out in the world, you're capable of Jack. Right. And then. But of course, the nurturing, like all the way back to breastfeeding, it's like, yeah, you know, this my job is to protect this defenseless creature.

Remi Adeleke (01:13:32):

Exactly. But he's not defenseless anymore. He's he's growing up and he's dead. Yeah, yeah. And so when I got the Bloods, I was able to see these non-emotional dudes who are just, like, freaking knuckle dragging warriors, but also intelligent. Like, in order to get in to seal training like a beast. So you got to score really high on your Asvab test, like you got to have, like, I mean, I remember going through boards and they were guys who, like, graduated Harvard.

Remi Adeleke (01:13:58):

They were guys in my class who were road scholars. They were guys in my class who were like, who were engineers and lawyers and decided, this is boring. I want to be a Navy Seal. Right. So you deal with the cream of the crop, and then once you once it once it guys made it to Seal training become a Seal going off the war.

Remi Adeleke (01:14:14):

Come back. And now they're serving as as a buds instructor. Now you're really dealing with like a man's man's man's man. Right. And so that was my first time like having these guys and being able to learn these lessons about me. What you say? Say what you mean, give 110%. There's no I can't like there. Like there is no like duck and boat, like be on.

Remi Adeleke (01:14:37):

Don't just be on time. You better be early if you're not early or late. Like all of these principles, that is, that it's important for us as men to get these lessons that we should be getting at a young age. And I got the crash course, man. Yeah, I got the freaking because they beat the crap out of me, like multiple times.

Remi Adeleke (01:14:53):

Oh my God, because you had you. And then where I was from. Yeah I ain't knew I was this, but, you know, it was like this. It was this is interesting thing because they didn't like my attitude, you know. And you know, it's just that street mentality, that attitude that I would have like turning my nose up. But at the same time, they saw something in me and it was like, man, if this dude can get it together, like, like he could be a stellar operator, you know what I mean?

Remi Adeleke (01:15:20):

And so they would beat the crap out of me, like, and hammer me and torture me just to kind of refine the and mold me into, like, the great man that they saw I could become, you know what I mean? And so that's where to answer your question. That's where I learned these lessons about how to be a man and what it means to be a man and what it means to be sacrifice.

Remi Adeleke (01:15:42):

And you have I mean, the guys in my class, bro, like Mark Lee freaking legend, you know what I mean? He got killed on the operation. I was in buds with him, Mikey. Man. Saw freaking. He jumped on a grenade that was thrown on the roof in order to save his teammates out. He was in my boat crew, you know what I mean?

Remi Adeleke (01:15:58):

Like they were guys on extortion 17, you know, Nick spear real good dude. Right? So, Ryan job, like, I was in Boston, like all of these guys, all of these legends, these were all guys I went through training with. And they also got I mean, a lot of them were had those lessons of what it meant to be a man.

Remi Adeleke (01:16:17):

But then they, they got an advance less they got the advance curriculum on it and Seal training. Yeah. And then look at the stuff that they have going on. They went on to do Charlie Keating, who ended up getting a Navy Cross, but doing what he did when, you know, when they were in northern Iraq and ISIS invaded and they were freaking slaughtering people and, and all of their freaking partner force guys fled and ran away.

Remi Adeleke (01:16:38):

And Charlie was they totally outnumbered him in his platoon, but he was LPO. He was like, listen, we know we outnumber, but there's people over there and he's saving. We're going not worried about our safety. He gets shot in the heart, you know what I mean? Shout out to the C4 Foundation. I'm on the board for them.

Remi Adeleke (01:16:52):

They do great work. People look for a foundation to donate to donate to the C4 Foundation C4. But like, these are all freaking solid men. They got solid lessons and I got those same lessons. And that's what really helped me and set me up to be the man I am today. Guys, that's got to be, something else to just be a part of that community 100%.

Justin McMillen (01:17:14):

It's there's no and there's no world like it, you know? I mean, there's no other I mean, there's no greater honor, right, than for it's. Yeah. And then to be surrounded by so many amazing people. Yeah. What is that like, explain how that feels like. So you you got, like, you went through buds a few times. This is out there, right?

Remi Adeleke (01:17:34):

Twice. I got kicked out. I got kicked out of buds after I made it through How We Can Die phase. And then, a tell all the story in my book, but got kicked out of buds and die phase. Went back to, first Marine Division and then went back a year later and started day one all over again.

Justin McMillen (01:17:52):

Made it through first phase and made it through hell week, then obviously made it through that phase and the rest. But yeah, how how what was the thing where you you got kicked out? What was the thing that drew you back? How do you why you I was going to I knew I was going to go back because like, when I got kicked out, I knew why I got kicked out.

Remi Adeleke (01:18:14):

And instructors all knew I, it was because of my pride, you know, I mean like after I had made it through hell week and again this was another lesson and them teaching me like this is what a man is a man is humble. You know what I mean? And I remember I got called Mark Lee, called me out on my my, my my pride.

Remi Adeleke (01:18:32):

I want to say either before or after we made it through how we got, I think it was before we made how we. Because I had made it to how we could 250 got pneumonia and sight and on like Tuesday of hell week and then I got, I got medically roll back. It started with two fight one from day one.

Remi Adeleke (01:18:51):

I had to go through first phase again and then go to how we can. I made it through how we with with two, five, one. And I remember after getting as far as I did the first time when I got medically rolled, I had this problem. Like, dude, I'm from the Bronx freakin Nigeria. I made it to hell.

Remi Adeleke (01:19:08):

I'm the only black dude in my class, blah blah blah instructors like me. You know, I got this stupid attitude like they still working with me. I was just like, I'm a freakin like, I'm the man, you know? And Mark Lee, he's like, you don't have it. You're fine. Yo, bro, you need to humble yourself. Yeah, like you ain't even make it through.

Remi Adeleke (01:19:24):

But like, you need to humble yourself. And I remember, turn my nose up and like, yeah, whatever you just hate. Right. And, And so fast forward after I made it through hell week, that in two, five, one. And then I got to die phase, bro. I was out partying, I was out, I was like, and the instructors were show up every weekend, work with guys, on anything they needed to work on.

Remi Adeleke (01:19:46):

It's called remediation. But it was. You got to volunteer, like, like. And I would be so hung over Saturday morning from hanging out all day long and Friday night and same thing Sunday morning from hanging out Saturday night and chasing girls and sleep around. I wasn't trying to go to remediation. I was just like, I got this. I'm good.

Remi Adeleke (01:20:03):

I already been through Hell Weekend and whatnot. And so, so I, I failed a dive test four times in my face. And after I feel that dive, test and die phase, I went to academic review board and I was like, hey, you've already been medically wrong. Once you've been performance roll twice for swims and now you failed your dive test like you got anything to say.

Remi Adeleke (01:20:23):

Like I was just like, dude, I understand if you guys kick me out because it was my pride. And, that was the first time in my life I took responsibility for my actions. Prior to that, it was always somebody else's fault. It was always this person did this or that person did this, and it's not my fault.

Remi Adeleke (01:20:38):

But that was the first time in my adult life that I took responsibility, and I learned to take responsibility for my actions from my instructors. As I was going to ask you, you know, and I will say it came to an end. It was like, all right, we're kicking you out. Go to the fleet, we know you'll come back.

Remi Adeleke (01:20:51):

And we'll and even wrote a recommendation. It was like, we're writing a letter of recommendation that you come back within a year, you know, in a year or, you know, in a year. And so I was like, cool. And so the days that's a year. Yeah, that was it. I mean, okay, keep going. What's the recommendation for. He was for a year.

Remi Adeleke (01:21:07):

But just because they write the recommendation doesn't mean you can come back and write all up to the command. You go to your command and be like, nope, you got to stay here for three years. So I'm committed. Nope. You guys stay for two years. Yeah. So I was like, I don't know what's going to happen, but I know I'm gonna go back in that very next day.

Remi Adeleke (01:21:20):

After I got kicked out of school training, I was in the pool working on all of the stuff that I needed to work on. I didn't know if I was going to get back when I would get back, but I'm going to freakin I'm gonna get back. And I got back in a year and a half, man. I got back in a year and a half and,

Justin McMillen (01:21:35):

And. Yeah, man, do you think history you think, you know? So I'm really fascinated by hyper endurance sports and things where you're accomplishing really difficult tasks, and it's the head game of it. Do you think that before you even went to Bud's the first time, do you believe that you knew in your head that you would never quit?

Remi Adeleke (01:21:55):

Yeah. Do you think that's a decision that you make all along the way? Oh, no. I knew I was going to quit. I knew I like, I like I didn't know how bad it bud. Sucks like guys. Oh wasn't it. No. No. That's freaky. So there's a reason why the attrition rate is like 80 to 90%. I mean, even now to this day, it's classes that are going through hell weekend.

Remi Adeleke (01:22:12):

And like, I got a text message in class, I think start over like 171, 80 guys and only like 15 guys made it to hell week like it's it's it's that's just the way it is man. It's it's such a brutal course. But I knew I like I wasn't going to quit. So there's, so there's almost so people that are gonna listen to this, there's probably some guys out there that are aspiring, maybe someone from the Bronx who is like, I want to go try to do that.

Justin McMillen (01:22:37):

So would you say that part of the formula and one of the parts of the equation is that you have to know for sure before you even before you even start, that you're not going to quit. One thing I tell people all the time is you have to have what's called a deep rooted emotional reason as to why.

Remi Adeleke (01:22:52):

Okay, right. And a lot of guys, in my opinion, they show up to buds and any not just boards but any other selection core and not just any special operations selection course, but anything that's hard to achieve in life, whether it's making the NFL or whether it's frickin being a skateboard or whatever. Like regardless of what it is that you want to do, you have to have a deep rooted emotional reason why you have to have something that anchors you.

Remi Adeleke (01:23:17):

And a lot of guys that don't make it in any extreme you is because the reason why is very superficial. I think that's right. That's it is. I got it like the other night. Like to actually two, two days, two nights ago, not last night, but the night before. Hey, this guy's in bonds right now, and he's 18 years old and he's thinking about quitting.

Remi Adeleke (01:23:40):

And I was just like, well, he's going to quit. He's. And this guy wrote ranks me to copy and paste what the kid who's currently in buds had said to him about quitting. And I was like, that's a dumb. Those are some dumb ass reasons. Pro go, some dumb ass reasons. And what it boiled down to was his reasoning for going was very superficial.

Remi Adeleke (01:24:03):

It's very superficial, and a lot of people's reasoning for freaking and starting a rehab center or starting freaking a tech company, or making a film and making a film, or being in the NFL, or whatever the case may be, is very superficial. You you got to do. You got to freaking read whatever you like, like, yo, is either this or I know my why.

Remi Adeleke (01:24:22):

Like, this is my why. I'm holding to that. Why? If your why is real and concrete, it truly your why you make it. You know what I'm saying? Like you'll make it through whatever it is in life that you want to achieve, you will make it. But if it's not, you'll find out really, really quick. Yeah. It's so like.

Remi Adeleke (01:24:38):

Like I knew my wife, you know what I mean? And then and, and I was able to build upon my why after I got kicked out of Seal training and really fortify that. Why? Even more so when I went back and when I went back, did it still suck? Absolutely. But did I breeze through like, yeah, it sucked.

Remi Adeleke (01:24:56):

Like being freezing freaking cold. And that water sucked doing those two mile time ocean swims. It sucked. Freaking getting hammered with logs and my knees freaking crying and my back feeling like it's about to break in my neck and a pulse on my head like it suck. Staying up for six days straight. It sucked doing hydro how we can all of these different things they made us doing diving in freezing cold water, freaking doing land nav and freaking getting frostbite up in Laguna mountains because I can't feel my toes anymore.

Justin McMillen (01:25:22):

All that sucked. But you know what it was like? I like this is a breeze for me. I'm still here. Sure. So one of our lifeguards, is a he's a corpsman now, and he are all lifeguards. And he came back afterwards. He was showing me all this, like, scars from chafing, from changing me. Crazy. So I had patches of skin, my thighs on each side of my thigh, inner thighs gone.

Justin McMillen (01:25:49):

Bro. And you see, the chafing is bad, which is flesh. You see guys flesh, from, you know, the sand and all that stuff. Just weird just rubbing your skin off you. Do you think there's a common way, like, is there some kind of official way? Yeah, there's a lot of what's what would be the most common superficial.

Remi Adeleke (01:26:07):

I want to be I want to be, respected and looked at is cool. Yeah. I mean, like, I want to toe I want to see how tough I am and grab my beard and. Yeah, yeah, and all that stuff. That's superficial, you know what I'm saying? And you get guys that say that, like in the exit, surveys.

Justin McMillen (01:26:23):

Oh, yeah. I didn't really want it. Like, I just, I just want to say I was a seal. Yeah. I mean, I think that that's too common. Why, what what's the common why that makes guys successful? Everybody's different. Everybody. You can't tell what's in a person's heart. Sure. And and that's the beauty of of Seal training. That's the beauty of anything like extremely challenging in life.

Remi Adeleke (01:26:44):

Even going all the way back to the Holocaust. Right. You like?

Remi Adeleke (01:26:51):

You can't tell. You couldn't tell. Well you hear I've heard some amazing stories, some crazy stories. It's just like man, like how did that person like live through that or not. Like jumping on off of a bridge or anything like that, or like killing because you couldn't tell what was in their heart. But anything challenge like guys in P.O.W. camps in Vietnam, like, you know, guys who, like, easily gave in, but they were guys who, like, did it great, like John McCain for getting his shoulder snap back, like, yeah, damn out of there.

Remi Adeleke (01:27:21):

Do make it. You can't tell what's in that person's heart, you know? I mean, like and I could give a million more examples, million more stories. But at the end of the day, dude like you, it's hard to find what that common Y is for guys who make it through Seal training or anything challenging. Like because it's different for everybody.

Remi Adeleke (01:27:40):

For one person, they may be like their dad beat the crap out of them every single day and like their deep room. Also a reason why. It's like, I don't want another person to be able to beat me the way my father beat him, and that's enough. Yeah, I think superficially, you know what I'm saying? That's not for them to be like.

Remi Adeleke (01:28:00):

Is that the light, that fire within them that's turning pain into something like wisdom or strength? Yeah. So that's in that dude's heart, right. And and people can't see that, you know, you meet so many guys and, you know, I've been blessed, you know, working in the film and TV industry and, and, and working in the corporate world as a consultant.

Remi Adeleke (01:28:20):

I've heard some crazy stories of, like, just painful things that people have gone through where I'm just like, crap, like, I ain't me. No person could, like, survive mentally after going through what they went through, right? Yeah. And, but it just shows you it's as a reminder of how resilient, you know, human beings can be. You know, mom can be, have a t shirt.

Justin McMillen (01:28:45):

There's one of our popular sellers, and it was on TV show, which helped make it more popular, but it's unlimited potential. And on, on the front, it says unlimited potential. On the back, there's an MRI of the brain of the of the head, in the skull, in the brain. And the word, the brain matter. The words that make up the brain matters.

Justin McMillen (01:29:01):

Unlimited potential. And like all of us, have unlimited potential. Like we can we can go to that place. That's why you hear these stories of women again. I mean, this is an example that's been used a million times, but the woman who kid gets trapped under a bus, a car and a car wreck or something like that, and they lift that freaking thing up and get their kid out now, woman.

Remi Adeleke (01:29:20):

The small way, how the hell were they able? Because that on them they tapped into that unlimited potential. Yeah. You know, so I yeah, I think, there's so much about what you're saying that resonates with me. Yeah. I think the foundation, the why for anything. I mean, I don't believe you should start a business unless you're really clear on why you're doing what you do.

Justin McMillen (01:29:40):

And it has to be something. Keeps you up at night. Yeah. You know, it's like I tell people. People are like, what should I do in school? And, you know, it's like, oh, I'm going to do business because I want to make money. I'm like, that's not enough, dude. You can't. Yeah, it has to be something where when you're tired and you're trying to study that, you have that extra fuel, it's got to be more than just superficial, you know?

Justin McMillen (01:30:00):

And I think, yeah, that's, that's amazing. I mean, that's I think that's one of the better ways I've ever heard anyone talk about, going through Seal training and understanding it, too. Yeah. There's a there's something cool that we're working on that I want to mention that. Yeah. And it's still kind of. We're designing the study right now, but do you know who Andrew Huberman is?

Justin McMillen (01:30:25):

I think you mentioned to me that last time I was up here about studying the brain. Yeah, yeah. So he's a he's a neuroscientist, but. So we do some research here. And one of the things that we're looking at right now is there's a part of the brain. Yeah. That it looks like it grows in size when you do difficult things and shrinks when you don't.

Justin McMillen (01:30:46):

So if you're if you're lazy and you sit on your ass all the time, it would be very small and atrophied. And if you're somebody who faces challenges head on, it grows. And so what it looks like and peers and it may not be true. Andrew Huberman says it's true. And now I'm having a hard time talking to.

Justin McMillen (01:31:02):

I have a call on Friday with a neuroscientist to try to learn more about this, but what he claims is that you can measure the size of this, and it would be an indication of how much toughness somebody has and why that matters so much is because one like with the work we do, getting people to be tougher is the key to staying strong and well, right.

Justin McMillen (01:31:22):

So you don't run away from you don't hide from pain. It's like I face pain. I'm not going to hide in a bottle. I'm not going to run away. Exactly. And what it could also be useful because we had to the NIH is what we're doing with. And they're, they're saying you have to have a marketable reason to do this.

Justin McMillen (01:31:38):

So there has to be some way that this can be commercialized. And so I was talking I was like, you know, the amount of money spent on selecting people for special operations communities, like all selection. Yeah. There's so much energy put into it. What if you could give somebody an MRI and say, I know, you tell me you work hard, but this MRI says you don't, right?

Justin McMillen (01:31:59):

This is what I says. You can sit on your ass for a year. Yeah. Whereas another guy who's like, maybe some skinny, scrawny guy, you'd never guess you could measure him like this dude. And he's got any good. You know, it could be kind of a cool way. But it also may not work, so. No, that's cool.

Remi Adeleke (01:32:15):

Man. That's interesting. I'm. I'm interested in grit and what causes people to win. I mean, that's a huge factor for me. Yeah. No, that's that's the I'm the same way, man I like it's always fascinating to to to learn what buttons can push a person to go to a place, whether it's an extremely dark place or whether it's a vulnerable place, or whether it's a place that's going to lead to success and great achievements.

Justin McMillen (01:32:40):

And, I really think, you know, based off of what you said as it relates to like that part of the brain and doesn't mean that that part of it, you know, if it's bigger, they're smarter or does it smarter. It's just tougher. Yeah. So they they there's there's a paper called, the I'll think of the name of the paper in a second, but it's basically a review of a bunch of different studies that were done to the tenacious brain.

Remi Adeleke (01:33:09):

And it's all about how this part of the brain appears to grow or shrink, depending on doing hard stuff. So, for example, if you spent if you went through week, we could we could study this the, the team guys and say everybody going in this week scan their brain. We look at the size of this and we measure it at the end of say, six months.

Justin McMillen (01:33:30):

We measure it again and it's bigger because you did all this hard shit. Now how does it being bigger benefit the brain I don't know okay. Got it. If I was a neuroscientist well that's what I was. The question I know a little bit more so so there's the limbic system, which is where kind of like the, the fuel or the energy of the, of a person's.

Remi Adeleke (01:33:46):

This is the fire. Yeah. You mentioned like emotion. So we have a part of our, our being that you know, my wife's Hawaiian. Right. They say mana, which is like your energy, the fuel, the fire that you have, you have a lot of it, right? It radiates, and then you have your frontal cortex, which is the way that you make decisions about what you do with that.

Justin McMillen (01:34:03):

Got it. So if you have no impulse control that money just because you just crack people off. Right. And do whatever. So the anterior cingulate cortex is this connection point between these two parts of the brain. And it actually helps to regulate the how the energy that you have here is, is sort of expressed in, in behavior and action in the world.

Remi Adeleke (01:34:26):

That's right. Yeah. So that's why I, I would just say, you know, with the advent of and the rapid growth of AI, I really feel like you're going to have a lot of people that small brain or small part of the brain. Yeah, yeah. Because, you know, I, I even find it like, as a professor, like, one thing, I had to write an introduction for my students in this class, and I'm teach I'm teaching a class right now, performance improvement initiatives.

Justin McMillen (01:34:51):

And I had to write this long write up about not using AI. And, part of what I said it's like is that do like, you need to challenge yourself and, and figure that you figure things out on your own because it's hard because it's easy to just tell. I write a paper for me about, starting a new business and implementing a performance improvement initiative, and it spit it out, but you're not going to grow out of that.

Remi Adeleke (01:35:17):

No, you're not going to be challenging that in any way. And there are a lot of students, you know, that are using AI in order to be able to do stuff, but there's not grow growing. There's a lot of people relying on AI to do other things, which is going to cause people to not be challenged, which is going to cause that part of their brain to shrink.

Justin McMillen (01:35:33):

And we're going to end up with a freaking dumb world. Yeah, you know that. At least a dumb Western world 100%. Yeah. It's a huge, huge issue. AI has so many upsides. It can be. I'm also working with this, this doctor that built a huge AI platform for the FDA. And he's he's a quantum physicist. Brilliant, brilliant man.

Remi Adeleke (01:35:51):

I also has the ability to grab every bit of literature ever written about human health. Yeah. And then combine that together to help you make decisions about your health. So it's like, yeah, that's that's a great use. Which it bring up a great point. My wife was, she's a doctor and she has a, a friend who she went to residency with and she's now, I forgot the term, but she's, like the doctor in charge of the residents at a hospital in Texas.

Remi Adeleke (01:36:20):

Okay. And so all the residents kind of fall into her horror command at this hospital, and she was just like, they don't. Nothing. Yeah, like her friend was telling my wife, I was telling my wife they know nothing. And like, they walk around with iPads now and, like. And if you ask them something, they just go to the iPad and they ask the AI.

Justin McMillen (01:36:42):

And she's like, they they're not learning to think critically. They're not learning like we did when we were in residency, to kind of think through what is this patient's problem and what can this problem be like? They just going straight to the AI and it's making for bad doctors. Yeah. And and this this friend was just saying I'm scared for, for the patients in the future because they're not going to be getting like the quality of doctor that, that we are now because we had to memorize everything.

Remi Adeleke (01:37:12):

We had to memorize, learn, problem solve, like we had to go through all these steps and they don't do any of that. Yeah. That's crazy. Yeah. It's crazy where we're. Yeah. Where we're headed. Yeah I think resilience in general, going back to what we were talking about with the brain and the interim and senior that and getting through buds and it's like we're getting through Seal training.

Justin McMillen (01:37:32):

I think it's a it's a systemic issue. You know, in the Western world, just just weakness and resilience in general. People are becoming very, very soft. Yes. And everybody has a I would say that most of the Western world has a really poor relationship with pain. Yes. And discomfort. Yeah. And that's that's at the core of like my entire job.

Remi Adeleke (01:37:55):

Right. It's like people can't deal with emotional or physical pain and so they run away from it. Yeah. And so all treatment that we do is like, and this isn't about this, but but it's relevant to me. It's like, how do you make somebody more resilient to external stressors so they don't run away. Yeah. And they face challenges.

Justin McMillen (01:38:13):

Right. Get exposed to it. Yeah. Yeah. That's something that's like I was teaching a class to my students other day actually last night. And I was like, you know, I use this term that pain retains. Right. Unless you put yourself in a situation, a challenging situation and you, you're exposed to those controlled environments that create stress and push you, you're not going to grow to the next step.

Remi Adeleke (01:38:37):

Great. You one. Yeah. It's, it's a necessary and it's a universal truth to man because there's something called horn maces which is like that basically all living organisms require they require stress to stay alive. Yeah. And if you don't have pressure on a system you don't have, it's the universe and the solar system. It won't work, will collapse.

Justin McMillen (01:38:57):

So pressure is required. Yeah. If we don't have pressure on a system, it weakens and then it falls apart. And then you have entropy, which is like everything kind of naturally unravels. So it requires constant restructuring and tension. And we forgot that, which is crazy because our ancestors probably were like, yeah, they're probably like, damn, you guys, if we had someone come here from a thousand years ago in a time machine.

Remi Adeleke (01:39:21):

Yeah, you guys, maybe they'd be that also be like the first thing to do. They'd be like, you guys, you guys figured it out? Yeah. You're not running away from things and you have food. Yeah. You know, they'd be stoked, right? And then they'd be like, whoa, you're fat. And, nobody, nobody can move in your week. Yeah, yeah.

Justin McMillen (01:39:38):

So it's like it's the price to pay. We get we saw the abundance. Yeah, as a species, but then we end up now. And so now everyone's like, how do we figure out how to keep people tight. Exactly. Yeah. So interesting. Right. I was reading something, I mean, a couple months ago, this article, it was like a it was, from a mainstream, news outlet.

Remi Adeleke (01:39:59):

And it had it was talk about testosterone in men and, how a lot of men like 30s, 40s, even 20s have way less testosterone than men, like 30, 40, 50 years ago. And, so in this article is talking about how do and this goes to your point about pressure, like pressure sustaining your pressure, creating, how what are ways that men in their 30s and 40s, and even in their 50s, can keep their testosterone level up without having to take testosterone injections or patches or I stuff and certain exercises, chop wood clockwise.

Justin McMillen (01:40:39):

Squats. Yeah. And pull ups help produce and create testosterone in men. Like I didn't know that. And interestingly, I do tons of pull ups every week, and part of my my circuit training routine and I do a lot of leg like squats, like free squats, not weights, but squats. A lot of them I damn, dude, I went to the doctor, a couple of years ago, just not knowing any of this.

Remi Adeleke (01:41:04):

This is before I even read the article. I read an article a couple months ago. This was like 2 or 3 years ago and got some bloodwork, and a doctor got the report and the doctor was like, hey, are you on steroids? And I was like, no, I'm not on steroids. I don't take steroids. Like, what supplements are you taking?

Justin McMillen (01:41:19):

And half like, has testosterone. And I was like, I don't really take any. I take vegan protein. Like after I work out like my routine is vegan protein. Like I don't want to take it away or any of that stuff, like, because it's not good for my stomach. I took vegan protein. I was like, you sure you're not doing anything else?

Remi Adeleke (01:41:33):

I was like, I'm 100% sure what it's like because you got the testosterone of a freaking 20 year old dude. Like, your testosterone levels are really high, and you should be talking about that because everyone wants to know the answers to that. You know, it's certain is it's circuit exercises. Circuit. In my opinion, you follow a diet to a pretty specific diet.

Justin McMillen (01:41:51):

Yeah. Yeah. What I fluctuate so like says there's some days website or. Yeah I just yeah. Yeah because I haven't eaten much say yeah yeah. What I do is what I do sometimes is I eat once a day. Okay. So I eat once a day, I do intermittent fasting and then I'll eat like a really big meal at the end of the day.

Remi Adeleke (01:42:10):

What would be in that meal? Typically? Vegetables, lots of vegetables, heavy, protein. I try to do, like, stick to chicken and fish, but, like, I like, had lamb. I love lamb, you know, I lamb has like, a lot of good corn. Are you eating that are massive meals. That's big. That's a big bro.

Justin McMillen (01:42:28):

So like couple thousand 3000 calories. Yeah. Like like that. Like the other night. Like Sunday. I didn't eat until like 6:00. I just drank water all day. I had, like, I had probably like a rack of lamb by myself. Nice rack of lamb, tons of vegetables, you know, baked vegetables, baked garlic. I do a lot of garlic.

Remi Adeleke (01:42:48):

I even, like, created this paste that I put on the lamb was like a garlic and, Dijon mustard and avocado oil. And that's another thing. Like I try to stick with, like, avocado oil and olive oil, which has a lot of good stuff in it. I stay away from canola and seed oils and all that other stuff.

Remi Adeleke (01:43:03):

My wife's like none of that's allowed. None of that shit's in her. And I'll kill you, man. Yeah, it'll kill you, man. Hey. So yeah, man, that's what I do. And then they also that's they're all endocrine disruptors, which might be why. Yeah. Supposedly they're disruptors. Yeah. And a lot of guys are living off diets and eating fast food and all that crap, you know, because remember that those fast food restaurants, they got to turn a profit.

Justin McMillen (01:43:25):

So what do they use in the cheapest, worst oils and worst food? And they're people who just live off of off of, you know, fast food and bad stuff. And that's why the testosterone is low, dude. Like, I never want to be in a position where I have to take testosterone. It's good at all. That's really good. I mean, it's so common.

Remi Adeleke (01:43:42):

It's one of the most prescribed things now for for men. Yeah. Across the board. And so and it's a that's it all comes back to the same subject, which is this, you know, what's going on with our society today as people are getting weaker. Yeah. But going to your point, which is spot on pressure, right. Takes pressure to create.

Justin McMillen (01:44:01):

And I'm using the pressure of pull ups and squats and some of these other tough circuit training workouts in order to unknowingly not knowing I didn't notice, but to create testing for sure. Keep my testosterone levels up. That's awesome. So, so, man, there's so many things I wear all over the place, and, like, we could talk about anything.

Remi Adeleke (01:44:23):

I really I was wanted to talk today about your writing process, too. Yeah. So we might need to figure out a way some of the time when you're in town to have you come back around and talk about some more specific. But. So you did. You were in the sales for how many years? Eight, eight, oh eight and a half, eight and a half years.

Remi Adeleke (01:44:39):

Okay. And then and you did. You were a medic. I was a I was a corpsman. Corpsman. I wasn't so was this is a funny thing. I was having this conversation on when I was on, on this last job out of country. So in, in the, in special operations, all the medics go to. Of course.

Justin McMillen (01:45:00):

What's this call 18 Delta. So you're considering the details and all that? Yeah. Well, I, I've done the pig lab and all that stuff, but that's that's a different course. But, they deal with the goats and they do a lot of all that, and they actually go work at an E.R. at the end of their rotation. Okay.

Remi Adeleke (01:45:15):

After I had gotten through when I was at the end of school, which scut seal qualification you go to, but you go to school once you finish S.A.T., you get you tried it once you complete, but you get your rating as a seal, but you got to get your it. And, you get treated like a seal when you're in school.

Justin McMillen (01:45:34):

And so when I was at the end, I was like, dude, I had orders 18 Delta. But I was like, dude, I want to go to a platoon. You know? Me, like, got kicked out of Bud's for his time and then came back, started all over again. Like, I just want to be able to freakin get to a platoon.

Remi Adeleke (01:45:50):

I don't want to go to six month because 18 Delta, six months, six month, another training course, and then I go to church. And so, I went and asked him to change my orders, and I was like, you know, I'll just be a heavy gunner because when you're a new guy in a platoon and you're not a corpsman, you got to carry the pig, you know, which is the big machine gun.

Remi Adeleke (01:46:07):

And, and so when I got there, long story short, my, platoon chief was like, dude, you were corpsman with the Marines, right? I was like, yeah. He's like, why you go to Delta? I want to go to a platoon. He's like, you're going to still be a medic because I wasn't an 18 Delta, but I was like a corpsman.

Justin McMillen (01:46:21):

Okay. In the platoon. And then, and then I went, I later went to human school. Human stands for human intelligence. So I got to kind of learn tradecraft and sauce handling and other cool stuff that I even know was offered to, seal or guys in our special operation community. Does every team have somebody that specializes in that at when I was it, yes.

Remi Adeleke (01:46:44):

Every team, the OG, the Green Berets, they kind of mastered it. So when I went to that initial course, like, most of the guys were like retired Green Berets, a retired agency, guys, a combination of both retired Green Berets who then went to go work for the agency and learn how to run Sources Agency. They call them assets in our world.

Justin McMillen (01:47:02):

We call them sources. In policing world, they're called informants. And these people will collect intelligence for you. So I went through that course and then. Yeah, that was that was part of what I did overseas. So I kind of got to live the best of both worlds, because I got to live in the intelligence world, where I learned how to gather intelligence and talk to people and have conversations, surveillance, detection routes.

Remi Adeleke (01:47:23):

And so you had to do all that's that stuff, all that stuff. But a lot of time memorizing maps and figuring and then writing like, which is another reason why a lot of guys and especially when I was in, weren't, weren't keen on going, getting that qualification because part of the school, a big part of the school was right.

Justin McMillen (01:47:39):

Yeah. You would go out and do like the the rounds and meet with your sources and all that stuff, but you couldn't you couldn't take notes, right? Because you had to simulate being in another country. If you go meet with a source in another country or an asset in another country, and you go to the meeting, you take all of these notes and then you're driving back to your safe house and you get pulled, rolled up on by, you know, the local police or the local intelligence service.

Remi Adeleke (01:48:03):

And they pull out all the all your spy in this country, you got all this information, you're going to get whacked. And the guy who you met with is probably whack. So you go to these meetings and you got to memorize everything, and then you got to go back and you got to write these long, freaking detailed reports.

Justin McMillen (01:48:17):

And, and so, you know, a lot of guys don't want to go that route because they don't want to deal with the writing because the last thing memorization, too. Yeah. And the memorization and the writing. And are you doing this in a foreign language or is in English? So you're learning in the English. You're learning it in English.

Remi Adeleke (01:48:30):

But then when you're overseas, like if you don't speak the language, then you have an interpreter with you. So yeah. So you're working through interpreters. Then after you do this, you build these intelligence reports, which again requires a lot of writing. And if he's going to Langley, are they going bad? Depends. It depends. So, I can't go on and get the details about it, right?

Justin McMillen (01:48:50):

Because a lot of it is classified. But it does go to it goes it goes to different ends up somewhere in a maybe in a president's brief at some point through some other somewhere. Yeah. Because it's intelligence, you know, whether it's intelligence from the agency, whether it's intelligence from the CIA, with his intelligence from any NSA or special operations or even just regular intelligence, and at a regular Navy unit, it's still intelligence, right?

Remi Adeleke (01:49:15):

All that information gets compiled and and screen and put in it. Can you can you tell me is it is it would you would you gather it specific for your particular team mission set. Okay. So whatever whatever. So it's going to be it's not like they're just like, oh hey, well you're in town right now. Let's send Remy to the market to figure this out.

Justin McMillen (01:49:35):

Meet with this guy to use it for something completely unrelated to the mission. It depends. Right. Like if you're like, if you're first in country or you're new in, in a country where, there hasn't been a lot of forces operating in, then. Yeah. You want to get atmospherics like, okay, you want to find out, okay. What's like, what's the lay to land like who's who and is who.

Remi Adeleke (01:49:55):

Like, what are the tribes that run this area and and who who are they in conflict? Would you be responsible for that on the team typically or. Yeah. So so as a human guy. Yes. Like if that was my mission, like if my mission was, hey, we're first and we need to get atmospherics. Hey, you guys should do that then.

Justin McMillen (01:50:11):

Yeah. But, for the specific missions that I, I've done, like most of them has been, hey, we need to find out where this target is and when are they going to be, when and where are they going to be, where they need to be so that we can go hit the target and get this guy, right? Yeah.

Remi Adeleke (01:50:29):

Yeah. Fun with that, right? I love it, I enjoyed it, I enjoyed it because I was able to bring a lot of what I learned growing up in New York City, and that's a cool thing. Was growing up in a Bronx, like, you got to learn how to read people. You got to be able to, especially when you're selling drugs and doing the stuff I was doing.

Justin McMillen (01:50:43):

You got to be at the top, okay, do I want to sell with this person or not? Is this person this cop? Is this person, the snitch? Is this person, whatever. So you got to learn how to read people really, really fast and, how well you can read people in some cases, growing up in the Bronx and other ethnicities can mean a difference between life and death.

Remi Adeleke (01:51:00):

You know what I mean? Do you think this is an intuition, or do you think it's something you can train? I think I think it's a it can be both. It can be and or right. It can be a situation where it could just be total intuition. It could be a thing where it's, total training, or it could be a combination of both.

Justin McMillen (01:51:20):

I think for me, like, the intuition was there growing up in the, in the streets of New York City. And then I went and got formalized training in it, which kind of enhance what I had. And I would say it kind of gave me the theory and it gave me like the right terminology and, to use, and then, you know, went out and did what I did, you know, that's cool.

Remi Adeleke (01:51:44):

So you, the Navy gave you, reinforced masculine identity and taught you how to refine your ability with people. Yeah, and taught me how to write better. I got write that right. Yeah. You know, and which is which is crazy. Is is such a huge part of who you are now. Yeah. Yeah. And then and then you got out of the Navy.

Remi Adeleke (01:52:04):

So now you're, you're kind of honed. I mean you're ready. What was the transition out of the Navy like? Like I got out in January 2016. It was I had been my brother in law as a wiper. So you know why? I'm sure you know why. Yeah. I'm presidents organization. I'm frozen. Oh, no, you got it.

Remi Adeleke (01:52:24):

Like, in order to get into Ypo, you have to be a millionaire billionaire. Or be the CEO of a company under 40. And, so he was a millionaire and, and a CEO of a couple of companies. And so, before I got out, he was like, hey, like me and my form, my ypo form, we're going to fly down to Miami, and we know you're a seal.

Justin McMillen (01:52:45):

We want you to come with us and just talk to us about, like, principles that could translate into business, like special operations principles that could translate into business. And so I was like, sure. So they flew me out to Toronto, jumped on a private jet, flew down to Miami, and that's just all I did. And I was kind of like, wow.

Remi Adeleke (01:53:00):

I was like, oh, cool. Like, I could do this as a business, you know, full time. And so, and after that, I went to I was like, all right, I want to go to college. The Seal teams had like a great program for guys with University of Charleston, West Virginia, which I'm a professor right now.

Justin McMillen (01:53:19):

Adjunct professor, to be more specific. And, where they took a lot of our credits from the different schools and intelligent schools and all the different schools that we went through in the Seal teams, and they applied those credits towards the bachelor's degree. And I so only had to do like a year and a half of college to get a bachelor's.

Remi Adeleke (01:53:36):

And then I got accepted into a masters program. It isn't it just be. I'm curious because I know other people definitely would want to know this. Is there other branches of the military or specifics? And like the soft community where that's similar, where they'll say, yeah, really? Yeah. For example, like, common corpsman and even, nurse, corpsman.

Remi Adeleke (01:53:57):

And I forgot the EDC corpsman, which is like an advanced level of a corpsman, like, you can go to any, college. They'll give you a bunch of credits towards a degree. Wow. Physician assistant. And then you just do people. That is a common knowledge and. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. And then people go in.

Justin McMillen (01:54:14):

Same thing with nukes. Same. Yeah. Obviously depends on the field. Right. But there are like because you get credits like even boot camp you get credits for boot camp towards college, right. Like, they obviously they're like an elective credit, so they don't really count towards a degree if you try to like, you know, become a physicist, but it's something, right.

Remi Adeleke (01:54:34):

There's a I have a buddy that actually I would love to connect you to him. He's j he was a J sock guy. Did you love him? He's brilliant. Brilliant guy. He was a trainer for, snipers in all tier one schools. Yeah. Like crazy. It's like. It's like my resume is, like, this thick. Yeah, and.

Justin McMillen (01:54:52):

But I don't think because he did some more obscure stuff, I don't know if he's he's able to, like, fall into a pattern or not a pattern, but some sort of situation where he can have everything, where a bunch of school can apply away. Oh, learn oh hundred percent. It'd be cool it connect you to. Yeah, for sure he would.

Remi Adeleke (01:55:08):

He's he's a really good dude. He lives out in Colorado. Yeah. And he's he's he's part of my last conversation with him. Just just like learn to learn to weld because he's like really interested welding. So he's taking his acing everything. He's super smart dude. Really out there. But no, there's a lot as a matter of fact, like at the school that I teach at, 50% of the students, are online because I teach online.

Remi Adeleke (01:55:34):

It's like being in a classroom because it's the same curriculum. It's a, it's a canvas classroom. And and instead of meet in a classroom, we meet on like this, there's some kind of that zoom, but it's like a specific program. It's called collaborate specific to the university. But, like most of my in my class right now, I think like ten out of 13 students are either for military or in the military.

Remi Adeleke (01:55:55):

Okay. And they got credits apply towards math. You know, I got a couple rangers in my class, you know what I mean? And it got credits applied towards their bachelor's degree, but I say all that to say, the point of why I bring that up is, after meeting, after doing that trip with my brother, I didn't want to just have my brother in law.

Justin McMillen (01:56:13):

I didn't want to just have the, the military experience. I wanted to have, like, something a little bit more, you know, concrete. And so that's why I was like, I let me go to school. So I was it was it a struggle for you at all to make the transition? Not and not because I had already had a goal as to what I was going to do.

Remi Adeleke (01:56:32):

Right? So like I had started my bachelor's, I think I want to say I finish my bachelor's before I got out. Wow. Because I did that trip with my brother, I was I was still in in 2014. So, I finished at my bachelor's like right after that. And then I went straight to master's program because my plan was to go into business consulting full time.

Remi Adeleke (01:56:52):

When I got out in 2016. And so when I got out, that's what I start to kind of roll right into it. It was like somewhat of a seamless transition, but I wasn't getting as much business as I thought I would get upfront. And that's when I kind of I started thinking, okay, what else can I do, end up doing a trip to Israel, which was the Gifford family and that's why I really had time to kind of clear my head and really kind of okay, right.

Justin McMillen (01:57:17):

Was saying this to me. I don't know what this is. So, Kathie Lee, Kathie Lee Gifford. Oh, Frank Gifford. Well, Frank, I think Frank Gifford was still, I can't remember if he had passed away. I think he had. Maybe he had passed away. But with Kathie Lee and her family. So, friends, what was the trip were you doing?

Remi Adeleke (01:57:35):

It was. It was like. It was. It was more like, it was just more of, Because I'm friends with, Cody Gifford. Great do. Great writer. It's a matter of fact, we co-wrote the slave deals. We both got hired to co-write Slave Stealers, the TB project I was telling you about earlier. He's a phenomenal writer. The actually, he wrote the screenplay called American Patriot, based on a true story about the, tribunals that took place after World War two.

Justin McMillen (01:58:03):

And with the Japanese, that were captured. Phenomenal script. True story. Anyway, it was then they invited me to go on this trip. How did you meet all these folks? So who I met. Go ahead and be Cody, I met Cody. I want to say, oh, through a woman by the name of Angie Stone.

Remi Adeleke (01:58:23):

So I was, I was I had, share my story on, ministry. There was a minister called I am second, where they show where they had people tell their stories and of everything I shot of every Vanguard way. And so Angie Stone was, she worked with the Nashville branch of I am second. So she.

Justin McMillen (01:58:41):

One day, she was like, I need you. You need to meet Cody Gifford. He's a really good guy. And so I met Cody Gifford, and we became friends. And then later when and when, when his mom wanted to go to Israel. And she invited a bunch of friends and family members and, business associates to come, like, she was like, would you like to come?

Remi Adeleke (01:58:58):

And I was like, yeah, sure. So it was perfect timing because I was like, I needed to get out of my environment in order to kind of like, think and process and, you know, just figure out what my next steps are going to actually look like. Is it at this point, you're like, you're thinking you're going to be this executive coach kind of, yeah, full time.

Justin McMillen (01:59:18):

And but it's not quite going the way you thought. Yeah. So it's like you're, you're getting the reality of how I gotta pay the bills. There's a different. Yeah. And, and you can learn everything to do like there's a ton of people that have graduated from college with great degrees, but it's that transition from what you learned and then how to apply it in the long run.

Remi Adeleke (01:59:36):

So you're kind of going through that. Yeah. Got it. Okay. So now you're in Israel. So now I'm in Israel. God. Had you had you ever been there? There's this. Oh, that was my first time. Okay. That was my first time. And, got back and I was like, all right, I'm gonna apply to Greece, you know? So, which is like, for those who don't know, it's like, Josh works with agency, you know, and I was like, you know, I was I was the humor guy.

Justin McMillen (02:00:01):

I had encounters with the agency overseas. Like, maybe I'll just kind of fall back into that work. And wife was like, what are you doing to the right? It's the right set up for you. Yeah. I mean, you also even even your being from Africa and I imagine there's a lot of environments. Oh yeah. 100% you can work with it.

Remi Adeleke (02:00:20):

So you probably cream like good for the picking for them. They're like oh this guy. Yeah. Do you have a language experience in Arabic. So. So I did a lot of Arabic training when I was in and like I call it whole like a strong conversation with, with sources when I was also. But I could like I got to a point I was able to make out certain things or apply and respond to certain things.

Justin McMillen (02:00:40):

So that was the and and then listening to my interpreter, like I'm really good at like hearing and picking stuff up that way. So like being immersed in the Middle East and doing three deployments out there, like, like I was able to pick up some, but I wasn't I wasn't like perfect. Yeah. Yeah. Well that's still that's crazy.

Remi Adeleke (02:00:58):

I mean to to have the kind of fluency you need to gather intelligence in another language. People don't think about that. I don't she can't say a lot of it too. Was reading body language. Sure. Reading body language. And and then kind of matching that up with compassion and then looking at the interpreter as, as as he's, translating and my translator nervous and reading and stuff.

Justin McMillen (02:01:22):

Yeah. Okay. So Grace and then and then so, so like I started the process of applying, sending my resume Obd2 14, like everything that I needed. And then, and then like, a month later, a buddy of mine, Charlie Keating, I mentioned earlier, he passed away, and went to a, went to, went to his, service and at the end of his story ran into a guy there.

Remi Adeleke (02:01:48):

It was like, he's some money, and Hollywood's been looking for you. Let me give you let me get your phone number, gave my phone number. And then, this woman who works with Michael Bay reached out to me about a week or so later and said, hey, Bay's looking for somebody. Put your background to work on Transformers. It's just one day up in LA.

Justin McMillen (02:02:08):

It's gonna be the first day to shoot. Are you interested? I was like, I'm just write papers for grad school. So yeah, why not? And I was using the post 911 GI Bill at this time because I was out. So I was getting money from that and, ended up going one day turned into three weeks, three weeks turned into six months on that film.

Remi Adeleke (02:02:26):

And then interestingly, like I had stopped hearing from like from the recruiter. And so I thought I didn't qualify anyway. So I was like, all right, I didn't qualify. So I like I took that job one day and and three weeks into it, didn't hear from the aggressive recruiter any morning. Fast forward to about five. Been being on the film for about in September I remember that.

Justin McMillen (02:02:47):

So we are we were in London at this point and it was September. And I started it on in May, the end of May, 2016. And fast forward to September. I'm in my hotel and I get an email from another jobs recruiter, and he's like, hey, I'm super sorry. I'm just picking up your file.

Remi Adeleke (02:03:07):

The guy who was handling your as a recruiter had gotten fired or quit or something happened. And this new recruiter had just got caught up to my. And so he was like, are you still interested? At that point, I was already kind of six months in on this film, and, and I had really fallen in love with the storytelling aspect and not just being not necessarily being a camera, being behind the scenes and watching something be built from the ground up and going back to my dad.

Remi Adeleke (02:03:35):

My dad, being an engineer, built like an island from the ground up. And I just I saw a clear link between building an island and building a story and telling a story, and all the moving pieces that come together in order to tell the story. That's impactful. So it's like a sponge, probably. Oh, yeah. They're you're just watching everything, like watch everything.

Justin McMillen (02:03:55):

That's how that works. And everything I would go to set in the days I was filming, at times I was a film. And just to kind of see how they did what he did and how it all came together. And that's that was when I was like, dude, I want to be in this business. Like, I want to, I still want I still do consulting and all of these other things.

Remi Adeleke (02:04:11):

But I want to tell stories. What's what's Michael Bay like? He's, very energetic on set, you know, I mean, very energetic. He, he's older now. Yeah. He's got to be 60. I want to say no. Yeah, I'm guessing, but yeah, he's he's passionate about making movies, man. And making action movies and getting after it. And, and when he, when he knows what he wants, he goes for sure.

Justin McMillen (02:04:35):

Yeah, sure. That's cool. It'd be interesting to watch. So you. That's a really amazing way to for you to learn everything you need to learn for what's next. Yeah. I've done three movies with him, and, got to kind of be by him, you know, all three movies. And, how did that happen? Was it his casting director, or did you bring him so after after Transformers, like, you know, obviously like we hit it off and then, and then when he started six underground, I remember I was in I was in Dr., with, anti-human trafficking nonprofit doing some work down there.

Remi Adeleke (02:05:16):

And then as soon as I landed in Miami from Dr.. I had, like a bunch of messages, missed messages, missed calls, voicemails from Michael bay's producing partner, and and so I called it back, and I was like, hey, what's going on? And he was like, they start a six underground. And the the advisor that he usually use is not available.

Justin McMillen (02:05:36):

He wants you to start training actors. I was like, when he's like, now, dude, I was like, I just landed, I won't be home for another week. I got to go to Texas and then, and then go, then go back home. He's like, all right. So, I got hired. I got hired on film six underground, strictly as advisor, technical consultant, whatever you want to call it.

Remi Adeleke (02:05:55):

I trained actors, went out to Terra Tactical, where, Keanu Reeves trained for John Wick and got had access to all the guns and ammo and weapons and trained Corey Hawkins. Adria Quinn's big then, but she's a massive movie star now. A Manuel Garcia Ruffalo. He's now the Lincoln Lawyer on Netflix. Really big shot. I think they're going in their third or fourth season.

Justin McMillen (02:06:17):

And, and a couple other actors. And then after I got them all trained up on weapons and fitness and tactics and all of these different things flew out to Italy. And I was right there on set with Ben and Ryan Reynolds and the rest of those guys and, and just, you know, guiding, you know, helping, guiding, helping make things look authentic and real, especially on the tango side.

Remi Adeleke (02:06:38):

Nice things and then they hired me. So like, hey, I'm two years later, am do an ambulance. Want to come work? All right. Come work. And then I had other films and other TV shows in between, but, that was kind of how I started and, and worked up to where I am now as a writer director, you know, and, you know, really trying to tell impactful stories specifically, my first one was human trafficking, because that's the field that I've been kind of like working in the last few years.

Justin McMillen (02:07:06):

Yeah. Tell me about that. So, yeah. And I don't know any of this. So what, you said you were in Dominican Republic. Yeah. How did you end up with that gig? How did you end up going down there and and why? And also, what the hell is your wife say about all this? Yeah. Well, now, well, I, a buddy of mine, Dave Lopez, we went to Barts together.

Remi Adeleke (02:07:27):

Zoom, and, he. When he got out, he ended up working with a human trafficking nonprofit. Right. And, he became, I think he rose up the ranks and there became becoming, the lead tactical operator for, they call him jumps, but, like, deployments down to, like, South America, D.R. other places where they essentially set up stings and trap Americans, and trap Americans to travel down to these countries to pay for sex.

Justin McMillen (02:07:59):

We had to. This is all because of a law that was changed, right? With there was a law that was changed that allows us to go to other countries. And if Americans are violating American law in other I can't I don't know anything about that law. Okay. But I do know that all of the countries that that Dave and his team were operating in, they would partner with the local police.

Remi Adeleke (02:08:22):

So they weren't out there operating unilaterally. They had to like they were like moving with the local police. And so but yeah, they would arrest Americans, but then they would also rescue kids who were trapped in these like sex trafficking rings, man. Like, oh I mean just horrible man. And so anyway, Dave had reached out to me.

Justin McMillen (02:08:39):

He's like, yo, dude, like you looking to do some work. I was like, what kind of work? And he he's like, check this out. He sent me like, a trailer to this documentary. That was done on his, anti-human trafficking nonprofit watch. I was like, damn. I was like, because it was it was a it was actual people, like kids like nine, eight, seven year old kids that were being trafficked for sex and raped and all of this stuff.

Remi Adeleke (02:09:07):

And I was like, damn it. So my wife, I show my wife the trailer and my wife at the time, she works for bigger hospital now, hospital chain now. But she was working at community medicine and we live down in San Diego. So she was working at Community Medicine Clinic in San Diego. So she was she would get like kids from Mexico and like, just the poorest of the poorest kids in her and her clinic.

Justin McMillen (02:09:31):

And a lot of them were just like, I mean, child molestation, trafficking, like different stuff like that. And so. So what? She watched the trailer. She was like, go. She was like, go help. She was like, this is horrible. Like, use your skills, go do whatever needs to be done. Like, this is sick. And so she she took it easy.

Remi Adeleke (02:09:49):

It's crazy that this, this, that this happens. Oh, man. Happens. Dude, it's it happens right down the street here. Happens everywhere, man. Like you could be driving down a car and there's kids in the car, or somebody's in a car and you think, oh, they they just with their parents. Oh, they're being trafficked. I mean, it's 150 plus billion dollar industry to massive industry in America.

Justin McMillen (02:10:12):

As a matter of fact, America has drive demand for a lot of, traffic that takes place globally. You know, it's so disturbing the image that it's not, in order for that to happen, there's, there's there's multiple people that are engaging in this behavior. Yeah. And they're around us 100%. And and that's what my short film focuses on, even a feature film.

Remi Adeleke (02:10:34):

You know, I've been having meetings with, other producers and producers on the, on the film. And, you know, especially when we get to notes about the screenplay, sort of things like one thing like, yeah, I want to give away too much as it relates to the film. But like, for example, like I had to tell a lie.

Justin McMillen (02:10:49):

I was like, well, why? Why isn't this person overtly? Again, I'm paraphrasing cause I don't want to give away what happens in the story, but why is this person, like overtly like trafficking the kids? Why like, why is it why is it so subtle? Why? Why does he work at McDonald's? Again, that doesn't happen by just trying to hide the prison produces.

Remi Adeleke (02:11:09):

Like, why did you freaking tell that for the movie? And I'm just like, dude, like, traffickers are not freaking monsters. Big six foot ten like evil. Look at dudes with tattoos on their face that freaking go about it. Make it clear what they're doing. Like it's the person working at McDonald's. It's the person. Like working at the Drive-Thru.

Justin McMillen (02:11:30):

It's the person working in the clinic. The nice words, a nice invite. Like they come in all shapes and sizes. Women. A lot of people don't realize, oh, it's just men and traffic kids. No, no, it's women. Like a lot of women are involved in sex trafficking and not just sex trafficking. Really? Like when people hear the term human trafficking, a mind just goes to sex trafficking.

Remi Adeleke (02:11:48):

But sex trafficking is just one part of human trafficking. You got forced labor. You got organ harvesting, which my film focuses on. You have, forced marriage. You have any way a person can be used and, you know, to make money or be used as a slave. It's their. Well, yeah. Against their will like that. That's a form of trafficking.

Justin McMillen (02:12:09):

Even. Like I interviewed a guy, who? They said it's a long story, but I'm just going to make it short. He was trafficked. He was misled and told that all he needs to do is get from Venezuela to Mexico and to these, drug, cartel would move him into the U.S he paid $5,000 for that to happen, but it didn't happen.

Remi Adeleke (02:12:31):

He ended up getting getting to Mexico, getting abducted as soon as by the cartel guys who sent him this pamphlet said, come here and we'll get you in America. And, he ended up getting set, put in his house in Mexico and in the house there were no door like doors were locked, was essentially like a prison, big mansion, but prison.

Justin McMillen (02:12:51):

And it were people from all around the world there. And they had been trafficked. They were now being trafficked that were lured there. And by the cartel were promises that they would be moved into America. And the women were used for sex trafficking. Some of the kids were used for sex trafficking. Guys were used for forced labor and other means, and but the kid's going to the point I'm trying to make were used as mules because the tunnels that they're tunnels that run under the, Mexico American border, a big adults can't fit through them, but kids would can fit through them.

Remi Adeleke (02:13:24):

So they would take the kids, give them backpacks full of drugs, and the kids would have to move the drugs as mules, like under these tunnels, through these tunnels and into the US and other drug dealers and cartel will pick up the drugs and, and going about their business so people can be trafficked. And there's a multitude of ways people can be traffic.

Justin McMillen (02:13:43):

And that's why it's such a massive industry, because any way a person could be used, they're going to be used for money. And so this so when you went down to a doctor, that was for if that was for sex traffickers drastically and we as foundation was your buddy. My buddy was he didn't own it. He was he was in because he was a Seal.

Remi Adeleke (02:14:03):

He was mainly in charge of like the tactical operations side of things. So he would work with the partner force in these other countries and he would like, you know, are you guys fully kitted out in the whole deal? And we had into these. Yeah we had depends. Some countries will let you rock with guns. Depends on like the police officer, the police chief or whoever you dealing with like in the city.

Justin McMillen (02:14:26):

Some would be like, no, you know what I mean? But, in this, when I, when I went down to DDR for this specific trip, we weren't, like, kitted up, we weren't gunned up or anything like that. Like part of this part, the main part of this trip was essentially to talk to the parents in this slum, because it was a slum.

Remi Adeleke (02:14:46):

And Dr. with the parents would sell their kids to traffickers in the northern part of Dr.. And the traffickers would give the parents money and then the parents would be able to provide for the families, but then the girls would be sent up to northern part and be used for sex. But we're talking nine, ten, 11 year old girls.

Remi Adeleke (02:15:04):

And so our job at this point was it was think of it as human, right? Yeah. Our job was essentially kind of talk the parents out of that cycle try to provide these solutions. Yeah, yeah. Try to provide resources for them. So they want to do it right. Because from that there was a I'll never forget I was born into, brought into this chapel in this slum that was like no bigger than a entire size of two handicapped toilet stalls.

Justin McMillen (02:15:27):

And at the end of the chapel was dead baby in a casket. It was probably about six months old. And, our God explained to me that the baby died because the mom, she was getting a foods or breast milk right now. Yeah. So she was mixing formula with the local water and the water. That's what ultimately killed the kid.

Remi Adeleke (02:15:45):

And so what he was playing to me was like, this is their plight. Either they sell one of their kids to the north, to the traffickers, so that the kids could be sold for sex and make money and provide for the family, or they don't and all their kids die. Right. And so, that one thing I found when it comes to trafficking and all boils down in desperation.

Justin McMillen (02:16:06):

Right. The family and that's what traffickers do. They prey on the most vulnerable people, the poor, very vulnerable. I mean, I posted a video, a couple days ago, about, this, Ukrainian, organ trafficker who was caught in Poland, what, 56 kidneys? Yeah. What? Female? Female. Yeah. So the article. Yeah. And, and she had, and what she had been doing, she was on, she was on a red notice, which are red notice essentially Interpol or Interpol red notice.

Remi Adeleke (02:16:43):

And, she had been charged like back in 2019, 2020 for this. But she was going to very vulnerable, poor people and saying, hey, listen, give me give me a kidney, I'll give you $10,000. And of course, in a minute doing it. Hey, you're poor. You ain't gonna do it. You're going to be stuck in this horrible situation.

Justin McMillen (02:17:03):

Give me your kidney. And she they they would do it for ten grand, and she would turn around and sell it for hundreds of thousands of dollars. Right. And so, to wealthy people who needed the transplant, I mean, in America, every year, 4000 Americans die every year on the kidney transplant waiting list, right? So there's people who are in the in not just in America, but in the world.

Remi Adeleke (02:17:25):

There are always going to be people who need organs and is going to old but don't have access to them. Yeah. And so that's why the black market is such a very lucrative. I mean, organ harvesting alone is a multibillion dollar industry. One of like crazy. I don't think people realize no they don't. They think it's like horror movie or something out of a movie.

Justin McMillen (02:17:43):

But no, it's true. I mean, there's so many stories out there of people who freaking go down to not just D.R., but other, other parts of South America. And they go there for some type of plastic surgery, and they end up coming back with one last kidney wake up in a bathtub, exact kind of thing. There's a story of this lady who, met this, met this guy in Peru on a dating website.

Remi Adeleke (02:18:06):

Went down to Peru. He was a medical school student. Never came back. American woman never came back. And, her corpse washed up on a beach one day in Peru, and her head was cut off, torso was open, and all organs were gone. And he got caught selling her organs on social media. Okay. Yeah, that's how he got caught.

Justin McMillen (02:18:27):

So, I mean, it's it's a it's a huge thing. It's it's, and when you have people who are desperate because they're dying. And they need an organ, they're going to do what they have to do. But then when you have people who are desperate and they need money or they need resources, they're going to do things too.

Remi Adeleke (02:18:43):

It's crazy. Yeah. That's the thing that's. So can we talk about your short I wish. Yeah. That's what's so interesting about that film. And what grabs you so hard is that you've got this dad who's. It's his son. Yeah. Yeah, right. So it's like you have all this internal conflict going on, just like you said about Dr.. It's like families.

Justin McMillen (02:19:05):

It's like, what do you do this or you do that, you know, and, What what? Yeah. I don't know what got me. It was just the fact that. Yeah, I got four kids, and you wonder how far would you go, you know? And that dude was, like, clearly removed enough from it to where he was like, I don't want to know.

Remi Adeleke (02:19:25):

Yeah, but he did know. And it's yeah, it's weird to me. And people that have money think they can buy anything. Exactly. Oh, 100%, 100% them 100% is ugly. Yeah. And then you're so you're making a full feature for feature film. And so the short film was called The Unexpected. Feature film was called The Unexpected. Unexpected redemption is unexpected.

Justin McMillen (02:19:47):

The short is that available to be seen anywhere on YouTube? Okay. So, people can watch that anywhere. Well, on YouTube, on YouTube, where you ain't got to pay for it. So check out the unexpected. Yeah, yeah. Be prepared. Yeah, I think I watch that was texting you for like two hours. Yeah. It's like, oh yeah. It's like, well, I couldn't stop watching this.

Remi Adeleke (02:20:07):

And why why did I. Oh it was. But people will get a lot, especially in the feature film on it because it's quite unexpected redemption for a reason. Because, the feature film ain't. No, it's not a situation where somebody is getting cut off and. Yeah, and that's it. Like good guys coming to town. It was like, I think you did it on purpose.

Justin McMillen (02:20:26):

But what you created in me was this visceral response. I'm a pretty compassionate dude, but in the end of it, I was like, I want these people need to die. Yeah, 100%. Right. And and so that was my feeling. Yeah, yeah. And then I think the feature film they do. Yeah. It's so good. The very painful ways. Yeah.

Remi Adeleke (02:20:42):

Good, man. Good. Let's And then. So when do you start. Are you in pre-production for now. Yeah. So right now we, we finally got, some financing. For the film. It's a big budget film. Not like 50 million, but, like, you know, under 25. And, and so we're, we're storyboarding. I'm working with a storyboard artist.

Justin McMillen (02:21:04):

I got an email right now I gotta jump into when I get back to the office of some new scenes that we're storyboarding out, we had a meeting with costume designer. We, and talks with a really big production company, independent production company, which had done some like massive movies for them to come on board and, and provide production services just because they have a lot of credibility.

Remi Adeleke (02:21:24):

We just brought on like a really, really big casting, director casting company, which is cast like a bunch of the biggest movies in Hollywood over the past ten years. And so we're just we're in the process of building our team. We're hoping to have the money in the account, in the next month or so. I was supposed to happen by now, but, the financier has been dealing with another project, so it's been slow.

Justin McMillen (02:21:50):

We're hoping to try and get in production by spring, by the end of spring, the latest. And then, just really, you know, hit the ground running with it. Do you have any in your talent figured out yet? We have. We have talent. Figure it out. But we can't hire them until we have the money in the bank.

Remi Adeleke (02:22:08):

Okay. So that's but are they down and everybody's money talks in. Okay. Sure. Money talks in Hollywood. So everybody's like show me the money ages. Like show me the money. And that's the thing. It's not enough to just have enough money to pay an actor, because the last thing an actor wants is, oh, yeah, I got $1 million to, somebody is going to pay me $1 million to be in this movie or whatever the number is.

Justin McMillen (02:22:32):

But but the movie doesn't go. I ain't getting paid nothing. Right. So it's not just about having the money for the actor. It's about having the money for the entire budget. So that that way we can go to the actors, say, this movie is going on this day, you know, you, you know, this is going to it's going to blow up.

Remi Adeleke (02:22:47):

Oh, yeah, 100%. I mean, we had like, we've had so many producers, who've read the script. I mean, we had just turned down like a really big producer who wanted to be a part of this project because they see the writing on the wall. They see that, you know, this is a topic that's not just a domestic product topics.

Justin McMillen (02:23:04):

And it's a it's a global topic, right? It's a global topic. So you add that on like when we talk about intellectual property, a lot of studios, what they look for is like a book or a comic book or a podcast because they already has a built in audience. Well, human trafficking, I mean, it's an IP in and of itself.

Remi Adeleke (02:23:22):

This article is coming out every day about organ harvesting rings, sex trafficking rings, Epstein, the Epstein files, all of this thing, right? All of the stuff. And so it's like, you know, it's the IP is there, the audience is there. I mean, look at the success of Sound of Freedom and taken in some of these other films that that you know, touch on human trafficking like it's ripe for to take it from a financial standpoint.

Justin McMillen (02:23:45):

So, so, yeah, we got a lot of people that want to be involved. And it is matter of fact, when I was just in the country, I was in doing a work I was doing, like I came across a tactical gear company, like one of the best tactical gear companies that provides gear for tier one operators, not just in America but in other countries.

Remi Adeleke (02:24:05):

And they sign on to provide all of our gear, all of our gear, and even like, uniforms and stuff for free. Nice. Like they've given us all. And it's like when I say it's like legit gear, like there's some, there was some, some prototypes and stuff that's in the R&D that they showed us that they're going to let us put in.

Justin McMillen (02:24:24):

They they're gonna be like, hey, first time people are going to see this is in your movie. And so like, we got a lot of like people that are like jumping on board to, to make this movie happen because they believe in and they believe in a message. And it's an impactful message that can really, you know, everything that I do when it comes to filmmaking.

Remi Adeleke (02:24:40):

Like, I truly believe that time is a massive investment, right? Like the most precious thing that we have is it isn't money. It's time because we don't have unlimited time, all of us on earth for a limited amount of time. And we don't know how long and we don't know how long, which is a crazy thing. Right. And and so I'm going to ask somebody to invest two hours of their time in my movie into watching my movie.

Justin McMillen (02:25:05):

Then they should get something out of that. They should get something out of that investment. So that's why every story I tell, especially this film, I want people to come out saying I'm edgy, I'm better educated, I'm inspired to do something, and I'm motivated to do something right. And so that's the goal. And that was the goal with the short film.

Remi Adeleke (02:25:22):

As you said, I wanted people to get get something out of it. And so that's the goal with the feature film, and I truly believe that that's going to happen. It will. I mean, when you first told me about it and I felt it,

Justin McMillen (02:25:35):

That night, after watching it and I told you the next day when I called you, I just know. Yeah, I just know, and I'm not, I. I know that sounds crazy, but I'm rarely wrong about that kind of stuff. So when I, when I text you about mentioning you being on here, and I said some stuff about it and you're like, I don't know about that.

Remi Adeleke (02:25:51):

And yeah, it, it it, I think you're going to be you're on your way to being one of the more and more important filmmakers that we have in this country. And I'm just so stoked that I got to meet you before you became totally inaccessible. Thank you bro. That's nice. And here's why. And for whatever it's worth, you know, I could be for shit, but I think it's.

Justin McMillen (02:26:13):

It's not just your talents because you're you're super bright, dude. I you explain that in a certain way. So talking about your dad memorizing the Koran there, you doing human and all the things that you're capable of, there's, the history of the word genius. Yeah. And I'm not saying you're genius or you are, but the history of it is super interesting, and it means, like it comes from Greek times, I believe.

Remi Adeleke (02:26:42):

And it was that there was a spirit that embodied somebody that drove them forward. Yeah. And so genius isn't just about being smart. It has to do with the history of that word actually has to do with some sort of force that's that's sort of outside of you, that's influencing your behavior moving forward. Yeah. And I think, I could see it in your eyes.

Justin McMillen (02:27:05):

I think nobody's purely perfect and but but there's, You are the only thing that would stop you from being successful in my mind, is you giving in to the many tasks you're going to have coming up. Yeah, there's a purity in you. Yeah, yeah, I see it. It radiates out of you, man. And so, that combined with, your talents and your God given gifts.

Remi Adeleke (02:27:28):

Yeah. To you, literally unstoppable. Glory to God, man. Appreciate it. Yeah, I really, I really and I see I, I'm not an expert in this, but I'm certainly an expert in watching people transcend to some of the most amazing places. I I've seen it so many times, thousands at this point, watching people go from one place to another and then discovering kind of like that, that power in themselves.

Justin McMillen (02:27:55):

And then I watch people battle their demons. Yeah. And everyone does. Yeah. I don't care who you are. Like, if you're incredibly successful. Yeah. Most people can't be successful because they can't handle being successful 100%. Right. And so the challenge is like, how do you maintain the beauty and the clarity that you have as a man and that you've developed while also gaining all the things that will tempt you towards the dark side?

Remi Adeleke (02:28:21):

Yeah. So how do you do that? You know, and I don't I he's gone and it's just staying rooted in God and staying rooted in the word bro and prayer and keeping good people around me to hold me accountable. Like yourself. And, you know, all the brothers that I have around me that, you know, kind of like what I said to my kids, like, don't be afraid to tell me when I'm wrong, you know?

Justin McMillen (02:28:41):

I mean, the worst. The worst. Leader, is a leader that's created an environment where everyone is just a yes man. Yeah, you know what I mean? And it's just like, yep yep yep yep yep yep. And so I think for me, like my faith in God and faith in the Lord and, that's that's what I look to because I know what it's like to, to not focus on the Lord and to, like, get ahead of myself.

Remi Adeleke (02:29:06):

You know, the Bible talks about, you know, God. Well, he'll humble those who won't humble themselves, you know what I mean? And pride goes before the fall. And I've fallen many of times. Not just like meek turning to Jesus like I'm talking like afterwards. And I know what that feels like. To be crushed down and to be reminded, like, hey, you're not in control.

Justin McMillen (02:29:29):

You're not the cat's meow or the dog's bow wow. You better get yourself together. And, I don't want to go back to that place again. So for me, it's it's just really keeping my eyes on the Lord in the world and keeping good people around me. That's going to be like, yo, bro, you stepping on. You did.

Remi Adeleke (02:29:46):

So good. Yeah. Dude, that's. Yeah, that's, That's good. And you're you're. Yeah. I'm excited. I, I'm really excited to see what happens. And I think one of the things that I've been thinking about lately and, and how long we've been going, we're going a while for you to go for it. You should probably start to close this out.

Justin McMillen (02:30:11):

Yeah. And maybe you can come back at some point if you, Yeah. But, Sam, I've been thinking about a lot lately, and it's even related to your recent little trip overseas is how in America. And this is related to your film. And so maybe there's a way to tie all this stuff together. But in this country, we're so removed from the average civilian is so removed from anything dark.

Remi Adeleke (02:30:36):

Yeah, yeah. That. Yeah. A movie like Sound of Freedom or the things that are happening outside of the walls of this country are just so foreign people, they don't even believe that they're. Oh, yeah. Real. Yeah. I agree, you know. So.

Justin McMillen (02:30:54):

What would be incredible is for your movie or any movie like that, to be able to give people a sense of what they have in a way that makes them appreciate, like you said you did when you came back. Yes. Yes. You know. Yeah. Because the other side of it, me and this is a trap. I don't think you're going to fall in this trap.

Remi Adeleke (02:31:10):

But the other side of it is for people to be so damn terrified. Yeah, yeah. Because when you if you haven't been exposed to anything dark and you suddenly realize that dark things are real, then you become super weird. Yeah. You see that too, right? Right. Yeah. So watch this video of a lady saying she checks behind the door every time she goes in the bathroom to make sure a kid doesn't have, you know, there's nobody in the bathroom.

Justin McMillen (02:31:29):

And it's like, yes, but people aren't trying to kill everyone either. I mean, it's like there's a balance, you know? So, so, yeah, you you it's almost like there's a war of of good and evil. But I do believe that that's true 100%. Yeah. It's been going on since before the beginning of time and and and and man, it's it is a war to every day war.

Remi Adeleke (02:31:53):

Man. I truly believe that people are influenced by the demonic, you know, I mean, sometimes like, especially coming from where I just came from, some of the stuff I was, I seen exposed sounds like there's no way that a human being could be that sick, like they had to have some type of dark influence push in that direction.

Justin McMillen (02:32:13):

Yeah, I mean, and even the stuff with human trafficking, like, I'm just like, how could people do that? There's got to be an evil force is really influencing them to do that. Like, how can you do that to a kid, man? You know, how could you do that to an all purpose? How could you do that to a vulnerable person?

Remi Adeleke (02:32:30):

You know what I mean? Like, it's like, that's demonic. And I and, you know, going back to faith, like, you know, the Bible talks about us being made in the image of God, right? And, Satan hates God and he knows he can't beat God. He can't defeat God. But what what's the next best thing? He can go after the image of God and try to destroy the fame because he hates God, but he can't touch God, so he goes after the image of God.

Justin McMillen (02:32:57):

And so when you see these people doing horrific things to other people, there's a dark force, a demonic force behind them. I believe this trying to destroy and displaying the image of God, which is human beings. Wow. So that's just the way I look at it, you know, was there a point where in your is you're trained to, to fight?

Remi Adeleke (02:33:17):

So at some point in your military career, that part of your life, did you suddenly start to see it in that way, or was this later how how did you, when you were deploying, were you like, oh, this is about good and evil or. No, I think, I think, I think every since I was every since I was young, I've had that sense of good and evil and stuff that I saw growing up in the Bronx.

Justin McMillen (02:33:48):

And, just in general, you know, I was beat to a pulp by a guy who just got out of prison. He's like 30 years old and then 20 year old guy when I was about nine years old. Oh, he's 8 or 9 years old. And it's a tough, tough guy to be, like, slammed on the concrete, spit on, and you're gonna find him.

Remi Adeleke (02:34:09):

I no. Yeah. But so for me, it's like I always knew, okay, this is evil. This evil is an evil force behind all of this, you know? So, I think for me, it goes way past, I think, because my exposure to the evils, you know, I mean, I would see kids get jumped and beat up walking home from school, you know, hoping it wasn't me.

Justin McMillen (02:34:34):

I was, see, mafia guys, the mob, like Italian mafia guys freaking going into the local bodegas and collecting tax with my money, you know what I mean? So I was exposed to evil in a way that other people weren't. And my age, you know, growing up where I grew up. And so I always had a good sense of right from wrong.

Remi Adeleke (02:34:57):

And I know I attribute that to my grandmother. I never forget my first memory as a human being, like, you know, like, my father, my grandmother, she had, it was a blue Listerine. I don't know if, you know, it was. It was like I was a little kid, and, I thought it was Kool-Aid. So I always wanted to try, because I was.

Justin McMillen (02:35:17):

So you put it in her mouth and swished around and spit it out at Grandma Weis, but now she's like, because it's Listerine. That's what I was like. Why is Kool-Aid like it ain't Kool-Aid? So one day I mustered at, the Juice to ask her, hey, can I, can I try to Listerine? I know I was like, why?

Remi Adeleke (02:35:32):

She's like, cause you got to swallow. I was like, no, I'm not. I'm spit it out. And, she's like, all right, I'll let you try it. And my brother was there with me and my brother put in his mouth swishing around. Spit it out. I put it in my mouth and I drank it and called it and my gray, my grandmother came back.

Justin McMillen (02:35:50):

She said, did you spit it out? I was like, yeah, grandma, spit it out. Should I know you then? Are you lying? You did say I was like, yes, but I didn't drink. It got hit, cough and stuff because I swallowed like, you know, people who are going to go to hell.

Remi Adeleke (02:36:05):

That's my first memory as a human being. I'll never forget it. And so like, I was like, damn. Like, I don't want to go. Yeah, yeah, that's. And so like, I always had a sense of, from that point on, good and evil, like heaven and hell, right.

Justin McMillen (02:36:22):

That's cool. And Granny's showing you what's up. Yeah. It's true. Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, it's,

Remi Adeleke (02:36:34):

So you feel called to to fight evil. Is that why you just left and did what you did? Yeah, I would say, you know, is that more like. Yeah, I mean, life. Yeah. I mean, I'm always called to fight evil, and, Sure. Like, we're all created to do certain things and believe that that's part of my calling.

Remi Adeleke (02:36:53):

But the fight against evil can look different, right? It could be making a film. Sure. It's exposed to shine a light. Light on the darkness, to shine a light on the evils. Right. It could be. It could be going off the war. It could be, you know, you know, instilling certain things in your kids so that they like my kids.

Remi Adeleke (02:37:09):

I tell them, hey, bullies. We don't we don't allow bullies to get away with anything. That's what I tell my boys. You see somebody in your class getting bullied, you step up to handling. Right. And so like in the fight against evil become a different. Sure. You know. So yeah. Yeah. Your your recent trip. Yeah.

Justin McMillen (02:37:31):

Do you think that without going into it because we can't, we can't talk about details. But do you see it. Was that about stopping bullies or is about taking care of the vulnerable. I would say. Or is it about going back in time and reliving something that a part of who you are that is now, I would say a combination of all, you know, I mean, like, you know, like, was I were we in, in the midst of some very evil people, 100%, you know what I mean?

Remi Adeleke (02:38:05):

And,

Justin McMillen (02:38:09):

Is that do I have that? I had the skill set to be in that environment and not have I not, like, use that skill set in a while wound like we want to kind of see. Do I still got it? Yeah. You know what I mean. So I would say a combination for sure. Yeah. I think and so you went over you have four kids and a wife.

Remi Adeleke (02:38:30):

Yeah. Did you just make that decision and tell your wife you were is going to go or. Yeah. Yeah, that went well. I made the decision then that I jumped on jumped on, told I'm going to she raised homes. You like. What are you doing? I thought you gave up this life. It's like I was an alcoholic or something that was going back to the bottle.

Justin McMillen (02:38:48):

She's like, what are you doing? Like you've been the civilian. Why are you doing this? Why? Like, I can't believe you going back. I was like, hey, mom called the. Do you know it's going to be all right? You know? You going to die? Hey, I could die driving up the tree house. Yeah. You know, I mean, I just heard that a good friend of mine, his girlfriend, 40 years old, she just slipped in the bathroom, hit her head on the sink, and died the next day in the hospital trying out a brain injury.

Remi Adeleke (02:39:19):

Yeah. I mean, yeah, it's craziness. Yeah. People dashes all around us all the time. So like, to be like, oh, don't go to this war zone and do this job because you could die. Well, I can die in my sleep. I'm. It's time for God to call me home. And, you know, stopping that. It's true. Yeah. So. Yeah.

Justin McMillen (02:39:39):

So it's such a crazy thing. How easy life can just disappear. Yeah. There's a woman that I. I do, open water swimming, like, out, out along the coast here. Yeah. And there's a woman I swam with a few years now, and she's been doing it for years, and they've just found her dead. Yeah, in the water.

Remi Adeleke (02:39:59):

She barely had a pulse. And, Yeah, she's swim a lot by herself. Yes, yes. So you can't do that. Yeah. And she was, you know, none of us were wetsuits out there. It's like hypothermia. You got to go so fast. If your body fat is not where it needs to be. She die? Yeah, yeah. She died. I wanted to revive her.

Justin McMillen (02:40:17):

A super healthy person like you would never think. She's channel swimmers and swimmers and Catalina. Yeah, that kind of thing. And she's gone. Yeah, yeah. So was just one moment someone was there, and the next moment they're gone. That's your neighbor across the street. The U-Haul place up here every day like he's giving me shit. I'm out of my shop and he's teasing me and stuff.

Justin McMillen (02:40:37):

And then one Monday, he doesn't show up. Yeah, like, where's where's Manny? Like, he went to the hospital, he had some infection, and he got septic, and he died. Let's see what. Yeah, yeah, just hate that. Yeah. Dude did not know. You know what I mean? I think, like, man, I was talking to four days ago. Yeah, I could have been, like, four days back.

Justin McMillen (02:40:58):

You're gone. You never know. It's crazy. You can't take it for granted, brother. Yeah, yeah. You got to live a good life and do whatever you got to do. Yeah. So you wake up every day with some meaning. Yeah, I agree, I agree. Well, I want to at some point I would like to I wanted to talk to you about writing because a lot of people that are listening to this are into writing.

Justin McMillen (02:41:21):

And that's something that I think would be it would get done next one. Yeah, yeah we do. And and I got a tradition I'm going to start in the future too, which you have to be here for. We won't be giving you something that's going to be like kind of a cool thing we're going to do. I appreciate it.

Justin McMillen (02:41:34):

So appreciate you, my brother. They appreciate you too. Thank you Remy. Yeah. All right. Yes, sir. Take care. Yes, sir.

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